[Tripper]

Originally Posted by Colonel

As i said, I wasn't comparing wars but the attitude about winning them. What do you think we would do to one of our Generals today if he said the stuff that Patton said? I doubt he would be in his job very long.

Do you understand WHY the attitude about "winning" this war is different? It's because it's not a conventional war. There is no way of "winning" in sight. The only real way to win is to kill all the terrorists.....The thing is, terrorists breed terrorists. That's why a "fuck you" attitude to these kinds of conflicts DOES NOT work. It actually works against you by breeding hatred, which in turn fuels fire and creates more reasons for these terrorists to blow themselves up in order to take out a few Americans. Eliminating Political Correctness just speeds up the terrorist-breeding process and makes the enemy stronger because they have more of a reason to hate.

It's a war, like Vietnam, that potentially could run for decades. Like I said, this is a new era. This is era of the Terrorist, and the insurgent.

Wars like this will always have public outcry for the same reasons....I shouldn't have to explain to you why, because I'm pretty sure you're not that stupid.

it makes sense when you believe, like I do, that they are the same conflict, just different fronts.

The front is just going to get bigger and bigger. Look now at what's happening with Iran and Syria. Soon you're going to reach a point where the majority of the middle east is entirely Anti-American. All these people see is Americans coming into their holy land and fucking with it. It's like the crusades to them. They look at it as Christians vs Muslims, especially when you have George Bush going on about how God is telling him to do this.

America may currently be the biggest super-power in the world, but they can't occupy and maintain the entire middle-east. It's just getting worse and worse. Stuff like this is fuel on the fire.

Funny how they hated us enough to bomb us before we took on Iraq, before we took on Afghanistan, even before we fought WWII. Nothing we do now can possibly make them hate us any more. I would hope that we would always conduct ourselves by a standard that is higher than that of the scum that we are fighting, that's why I doubt the report that started this thread is 100% accurate, But I also think that as a country we have a growing faction that will oppose anything that we do (even if we were fighting Hitler again) and will always find fault and take pleasure in pointing the finger of blame at our boys when something like this comes out.

I think you're wrong here. There hasn't been a war like WW2 against an enemy like Hitler to know if the public outcry would still be the same as it currently is.....You're right to a degree about some people always pointing the blame no matter how just the war is, but right now, in this case, it is very bad. Never has it been as bad for the U.S....It may as well be a religious war (Like I said, it is to alot of these Muslims), and when religion comes into play, you find people have nothing to lose....and when people have nothing to lose....Well.....