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Originally Posted by c312

we'll see. You guys really don't like this government monitoring do ya? sheesh.

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Talk about double speak...You're saying him lying under oath about getting a blow job because the Republicans were HELL-BENT on bringing him down is greater grounds for justification on impeachment then a president who KNOWINGLY broke the law to spy on US citizens. FFS if Bush got a blow job and lied under oath all he would have to say is "9/11 and national security! ehehehehehehehehehehehehehe" and he would be pardoned. It's un-be-fucking-lievable what Bush has gotten away with.

Originally Posted by c312

What is the big deal about being able to speak eloquently and all that? Bush's mistakes in his speech make him more realistic. Normal people would talk just like he does when speaking in front of large audiences about important stuff. I don't see why people expect him to be so much better than everybody else at speaking. I know you'll probably say he's the president, he should be able to speak well. I have seen him speak well personally, but I know he makes mistakes. I don't see why the president should be held to a higher standard anyway. He is a citizen of the United States just like anyone else. He's not a king, he hasn't been educated more than most people, he is just an American, that's the point of Democracy, so regular people can hold office.

LMFAO, Regular people do not run this country. If regular people did people like Kerry, Clinton, Bush, Byrd, Frist, etc wouldn't be in power. The US Government is full of (Described by Kurt Vonnegut) of winners...

[quote:cadb6] Of course, we have only a one party government. It's the winners. And then everybody else is the losers. And, the winners divided into two parties. The Republicans and the Democrats.

DAVID BRANCACCIO: Well, you write in the book you say that the last election, the two leading candidates were two C students from Yale, as you put it.

KURT VONNEGUT: Two members of Skull and Bones at Yale, for God's sake. If I mean, that's what a charade the combat between the Republicans and the Democrats is. It's rich kids. Winners on both sides. So the winners can't lose. And, of course, the losers have no representation in Congress or whatever.

But look, yeah. We had to choose between two members of Skull and Bones? What about if we had to choose between two members of Sigma Chi at Purdue? Wouldn't somebody have said what a minute. What the hell happened here?

DAVID BRANCACCIO: But you're saying you don't see senior political figures really, anybody representing the interests of people who are struggling?

KURT VONNEGUT: No, are not representing the American people. And, so there are people who made a hell of a lot of money one way or another. Making it during the war, incidentally. As you know, maybe the war is a bad idea. But some people are making a ton of money off of it. And they want to hang on to whatever they've got. And so they bank roll political campaigns for both Republicans and Democrats.[/quote:cadb6]