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ninty · 02-14-2006, 07:13 PM

I can't understand why any citizen living in an EU country or a possible EU country would want to join the EU. I can see it as benificial for political leaders and the like, however, all I see it doing to the citizens is taking away their soverignty.

The main problem I have with it is you elect ministers of your own country, and then the leaders of the EU are appointed. Matters pertaining to one country can now essentially be decided on by the EU which basically rules over that one nations government. Seems like a piss poor deal to me. I don't see a european state increasing the well being of its citizens as the article seems to suggest. I

I watched a doc on the EU and they had one representative who showed how he had to vote on certain EU resolutions. In one voting session he voted on 90 different topics. He said it was impossible to actually read all of the documents and understand everything he was voting on that day, and he had a team of people who read through everything and told him how to vote. He also said the organization as a whole was extremly corrupt.

I actually found the doc online:

http://www.disinfo.com/site/displayarticle14111.html

Made by Phillip Day. Don't know who that is, but perhaps you brits might know who he is. Maybe he's a crazy dude, but I don't know all that much about the EU so maybe someone living in europe might shed some more light. ban:

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ninty is Offline Major General Posts: 12,683 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Calgary	02-14-2006, 07:13 PM I can't understand why any citizen living in an EU country or a possible EU country would want to join the EU. I can see it as benificial for political leaders and the like, however, all I see it doing to the citizens is taking away their soverignty. The main problem I have with it is you elect ministers of your own country, and then the leaders of the EU are appointed. Matters pertaining to one country can now essentially be decided on by the EU which basically rules over that one nations government. Seems like a piss poor deal to me. I don't see a european state increasing the well being of its citizens as the article seems to suggest. I I watched a doc on the EU and they had one representative who showed how he had to vote on certain EU resolutions. In one voting session he voted on 90 different topics. He said it was impossible to actually read all of the documents and understand everything he was voting on that day, and he had a team of people who read through everything and told him how to vote. He also said the organization as a whole was extremly corrupt. I actually found the doc online: http://www.disinfo.com/site/displayarticle14111.html Made by Phillip Day. Don't know who that is, but perhaps you brits might know who he is. Maybe he's a crazy dude, but I don't know all that much about the EU so maybe someone living in europe might shed some more light. ban: