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when you guys talk about all these kids being cheeky fucks, i really don't see it, at all. even still, if they are in need of parenting, it's parenting they need; not a fucking slap. that should be the very last resort to discipline a child. kids are assholes because their parents didn't raise them right to begin wtih, and now you want them to get hit for it? that's a great way for it to go down, have their daddy that never cared about them start raising his hand in anger.
parenting with physical violence is the worst form of parenting, it's been documented and studied. too many negative consequences come from it, and it leaves alot of negative impacts on the kid. i couldn't imagine being physically scared of my father, it was disappointing him that deterred me from doing anything.
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So disrespecting a police officer or breaking the law(this relates to the first topic of the thread) isnt being a cheeky fuck?
"if they are in need of parenting, it's parenting they need; not a fucking slap"
"parenting with physical violence is the worst form of parenting"
eh? contradiction?
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jeeeeezuz Jotun, i think you are being narrow minded here. Dont get me wrong Im not trying to be an ass but i think the reason why you are still arguing is because of this "all my friends skate and they dont make a big deal about it." I understand that your friends might be cool but not every skater is.
Arkan isnt saying that a physical beating is needed everytime. sLet me put is this way; some kids get their asses beat by their parents almost every fucking time they get in trouble but they keep getting in trouble...
I think what Arkan is trying to tell you is that sometimes a physical beating might make a kid understand that what he did was wrong - on another cases just a chat might make a kid understand that...Is not about the fear (of getting beat) but rather about consequence...if you do something wrong suspect some sort of punishment afterwards...
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maybe so, but im trying to make a point. i dont see where people get all of these shitty notions about skaters. of course i've met dick skaters, there ARE plenty, but the majority are pretty relaxed and normal people. this whole stereotype of the skater thinking they are better is formed by the few dick skaters and the fact that people like to judge others without getting to know them.
and the whole beating your kid thing. people can do what they want, but i dont think even putting the slightest idea of violence or fear into your kid is necessary. i cant speak from experience, but i know i will never want to harm my child. |
I think the only one making "shitty notions about skaters" is pyro which some will tell you to ignore...and his logic doesnt quite make sense - since well isnt "cool" one of the things you look in someone you want to be around? (im using cool as a general word which includes all the "friendship" bullshit)
Jotun, the example i wrote about the kid getting the shit beat out everytime could also be riversed. Like how about the kids that never have gotten beat but they still get in trouble? Im merely suggesting that maybe both could work better. Maybe slaps earlier in life and chats later? |
i could never tell you how someone should be a parent, im just saying i dont think i would ever hit my child, even if it is just a tiny slap or kick or whatever. like it was said before, this is a clash between 2 different generations, and its all very personal.