Alliedassault - View Single Post - ask john kerry a question...start ranting *update*

TGB! · 09-19-2007, 11:51 PM

[quote:329d9]He was some nerd arguing with John Kerry, not a linebacker.[/quote:329d9]

Specious reasoning. Whether he is a beligerent nerd or a coked out bouncer, they have a procedure for handling the situation, and constantly saying "Oh they could have handled him" tosses all that out to make the point. They TRIED to handle him (dunno why this isn't getting through).

[quote:329d9]LOL. Okay. [/quote:329d9]

Whatever. You're ignoring events in the video, and eyewitness accounts that happened during AND after to make your point, as well as giving these cops leeway and mysterious RoboCop powers in their ability to FLAWLESSLY control the situation. You refer to some Amnesty Intl. report (if its the same one that is bandied about), that is sloppy in its reporting. 150 deaths over how many years versus how many people who hadn't died when the TASER was used in the process of restraining them. Also nevermind that there is no IMPLICIT link between the taser being the cause of death just that "well these folks who died also had been shot". Only in SEVEN of these 150 cases, did a medical official actually list the taser as being the cause of death.

[quote:329d9]Like I said, if you cant remove a fucking college kid geek from a building without zapping him, and there are more than two of you, then you shouldn't be a police officer[/quote:329d9]

Ever try to move someone who is resisting you? Go get one of your friends to play the part of the kid and you see how well (and without bruising or hurting him) you can remove him while hes resisting every movement. I love how you discount the campus police, when they gave the punk every chance to get the fuck out of the lecture hall. None of them "relied" on the taser - one person used it after REPEATEDLY asking the guy to cooperate with the campus police (and after tripping on his own shoes, and causing two of the cops to fall on the steps with him).

[quote:329d9]
Have you ever been electrocuted? "electro-kiss?" Hardly. [/quote:329d9]

He wasn't electrocuted. He was tasered. I'm sure you know the difference.

[quote:329d9]Now would a gun be necessary in this situation? Of course not. So why use the taser?[/quote:329d9]

That's not a tasers sole use.

But this is a joke of a debate, since we seem to be arguing from a poin to of "What a cop SHOULD be able to do" versus what they are trained and ordered to do per dept. policy.

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TGB! is Offline Command Sergeant Major Posts: 2,644 Join Date: Dec 2003	09-19-2007, 11:51 PM [quote:329d9]He was some nerd arguing with John Kerry, not a linebacker.[/quote:329d9] Specious reasoning. Whether he is a beligerent nerd or a coked out bouncer, they have a procedure for handling the situation, and constantly saying "Oh they could have handled him" tosses all that out to make the point. They TRIED to handle him (dunno why this isn't getting through). [quote:329d9]LOL. Okay. [/quote:329d9] Whatever. You're ignoring events in the video, and eyewitness accounts that happened during AND after to make your point, as well as giving these cops leeway and mysterious RoboCop powers in their ability to FLAWLESSLY control the situation. You refer to some Amnesty Intl. report (if its the same one that is bandied about), that is sloppy in its reporting. 150 deaths over how many years versus how many people who hadn't died when the TASER was used in the process of restraining them. Also nevermind that there is no IMPLICIT link between the taser being the cause of death just that "well these folks who died also had been shot". Only in SEVEN of these 150 cases, did a medical official actually list the taser as being the cause of death. [quote:329d9]Like I said, if you cant remove a fucking college kid geek from a building without zapping him, and there are more than two of you, then you shouldn't be a police officer[/quote:329d9] Ever try to move someone who is resisting you? Go get one of your friends to play the part of the kid and you see how well (and without bruising or hurting him) you can remove him while hes resisting every movement. I love how you discount the campus police, when they gave the punk every chance to get the fuck out of the lecture hall. None of them "relied" on the taser - one person used it after REPEATEDLY asking the guy to cooperate with the campus police (and after tripping on his own shoes, and causing two of the cops to fall on the steps with him). [quote:329d9] Have you ever been electrocuted? "electro-kiss?" Hardly. [/quote:329d9] He wasn't electrocuted. He was tasered. I'm sure you know the difference. [quote:329d9]Now would a gun be necessary in this situation? Of course not. So why use the taser?[/quote:329d9] That's not a tasers sole use. But this is a joke of a debate, since we seem to be arguing from a poin to of "What a cop SHOULD be able to do" versus what they are trained and ordered to do per dept. policy.