Makaveli?

descry · **Makaveli? -** 09-12-2003, 11:57 AM

Tomorrows the day, if you know what im talking about. Is tupac dead or not? He's probably dead but its kinda cool if you think about it. Heres all the stuff that makes ppl think hes alive...

-The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.

-The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life. Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "Tupac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli".

-The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Do you really think the video was shot 4 months ago, back in August of '96? Think about it.

-In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.

-In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight

-Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why didn't he wear it to a very public event like a Tyson fight? (Because he wanted to make it seem like he could be shot.)

-In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death without an autopsy? Furthermore, it is illegal to bury someone who has been murdered without an autopsy.

-In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.

-The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.

-Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.

-Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7 It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.

-There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"? The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI".

-The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry). In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). Could Simon be a reference to Suge Knight(the executive producer of Death Row records)? Simon was renamed "Peter, the rock" (John 1:42).

-In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "N*ggas Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that n*ggas' gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released.

-In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death?

-In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthaf*ckin' menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had b*tch *ss n*ggas on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli.

-In Tupac's song "Life of an Outlaw" on the album The 7 Day Theory, he says "All for the street fame on how to be managed, to plan sh*t, 6 months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole and now I got it"-Life Of An Outlaw. This implies that Tupac planned his "death" in advance and now he is enjoying the success of his plan.

-In Tupac's song "Made Niggaz" from the Supercop Soundtrack, he says "F*ck 'em all who don't understand my plot to get richer... Outlaw to the grave, a muthaf*ckin' made nigga I got a plan to get richer. Take my picture." Once again he mentions his "plan" to get rich.

Theres a shit load more but im to lazy to find the rest

ninty · 09-12-2003, 12:05 PM

So, you're not talking about Niccolo Machiavelli, the first political thinker from the 16th century?

Hollywood · 09-12-2003, 12:10 PM

Just let him rest in peace, this is like the black man's Elvis, I'm surprised that there haven't been any Tupac sightings in the tabloids. I find it funny that things like his age added together makes 7 and that means he will rise 7 years later or whatever, don't you realize it was Tupac's friends, business partners, producers etc.. that arranged for certain songs to be released on the album? It was for the fans, and also was a great way to market his death. Calling him Makaveli is just a way of wishing he wasn't dead and that there was some way to bring him back.

I wonder what will happen once the day comes and goes, and no Tupac. I hope everyone will finally realize he is dead and let him rest in peace.

descry · 09-12-2003, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ninty9

So, you're not talking about Niccolo Machiavelli, the first political thinker from the 16th century?

not quite

Hollywood · 09-12-2003, 12:20 PM

It gets worse lol

"In the movie, "Gang Related," Tupac and Belushi wait in room 7, and Tupac's badge number is 115; 1+1+5=7."

"At the end opf the song hail marry you can hear a voice calling
"he's alive 'he's alive. you can hear it when the song is playing 3 minutes and 22 seconds and 3+2+2is the magical number of 7"

hake:

Zoner · 09-12-2003, 12:21 PM

Mach•i•a•vel•li•an

Pronunciation: (mak"E-u-vel'E-un), [key]
—adj.
1. of, like, or befitting Machiavelli.
2. being or acting in accordance with the principles of government analyzed in Machiavelli's The Prince, in which political expediency is placed above morality and the use of craft and deceit to maintain the authority and carry out the policies of a ruler is described.
3. characterized by subtle or unscrupulous cunning, deception, expediency, or dishonesty: He resorted to Machiavellian tactics in order to get ahead.

Doc Hayward · 09-12-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood

Just let him rest in peace, this is like the black man's Elvis, I'm surprised that there haven't been any Tupac sightings in the tabloids. I find it funny that things like his age added together makes 7 and that means he will rise 7 years later or whatever, don't you realize it was Tupac's friends, business partners, producers etc.. that arranged for certain songs to be released on the album? It was for the fans, and also was a great way to market his death. Calling him Makaveli is just a way of wishing he wasn't dead and that there was some way to bring him back.

JBird · 09-12-2003, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ninty9

So, you're not talking about Niccolo Machiavelli, the first political thinker from the 16th century?

LMAO ! biggrin: i went to an all black highschool in chicago, and when pac came out with that album machiavelli, i told them that he stole that name from a historical figure long ago who supposedly returned from death. they were like " no way man, pac made that up himself, he is the original machiavelli " oOo: same thing when puffy ripped off the sting ill be watching you song, and made it ill be missing you...they all had no idea that was a sting song. biggrin:

gtboys34 · 09-12-2003, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood

It gets worse lol

"In the movie, "Gang Related," Tupac and Belushi wait in room 7, and Tupac's badge number is 115; 1+1+5=7."

"At the end opf the song hail marry you can hear a voice calling
"he's alive 'he's alive. you can hear it when the song is playing 3 minutes and 22 seconds and 3+2+2is the magical number of 7"

hake:

WOW, ive never heard about that before. Ok, what if he is alive, still. Is he gonna try to make some kind of comeback? Somebody will just porbaly kill em (this time for sure) and do in front of the world also. Like while he's at some event or something.

ED! · 09-12-2003, 01:49 PM

"Black man's elvis" -

Might want to rewrite that partner.

hake:

Old Reliable · 09-12-2003, 01:54 PM

black man's thug idol

Zoner · 09-12-2003, 01:56 PM

I don't care WHAT colour the dude is/was...I still don't like 'im.

Hollywood · 09-12-2003, 02:04 PM

[quote="ED!":ea542]"Black man's elvis" -

Might want to rewrite that partner.

hake:[/quote:ea542]

Black man/woman's elvis [img]http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

ED! · 09-12-2003, 02:39 PM

Racism at its most insidious. But - cant really say I'm too surpised. Cause yanno, no whites or "good people" are gonna listen to that negro music.

Tripper · 09-12-2003, 03:07 PM

I don't think he'll be back. I believe he's dead, and I also believe people shout get over it.

Although, if it were true, it would be a BRILLIANT ruse on his part. Think of the money he'd make by coming back now with all these people that have missed him so much.....

It would be spectacular.

Unfortunately, it won't happen - I can almost guarantee.