[imported_Fluffy_Bunny]

The CIA triggered a massive explosion in a Siberian natural gas pipeline in 1982 as part of covert American efforts to collapse the Soviet economy, according to a new account of the Cold War.

Exploiting Moscow's hankering for Western technology, the CIA allowed KGB agents to "steal" deliberately defective software that, after months of normal operation, went haywire. The resulting explosion was hushed up by both sides, even though it was the largest non nuclear blast to be picked up by spy satellites. Until they were let in on the secret, senior US officials thought that the Soviet authorities had tested a new nuclear device. The details are laid out for the first time in a new book, At the Abyss: An Insider's History of the Cold War, by Thomas Reed, a former Secretary of the Navy who was serving in America's National Security Council at the time.

In the 1970s, American Intelligence was aware that the Soviet Union was trying to steal technology secrets. Moscow had set up a KGB section called Directorate T dedicated to the task. But it was only in 1981 when Vladimir Vetrov, an engineer at Directorate T, came over to the French that the full extent of its success was known. President Mitterrand gave Colonel Vetrov's dossier to the CIA.

It confirmed that Moscow had succeeded in stealing valuable material on American radar, computers, machine tools and semiconductors. "Our science was supporting their national defence," Mr Reed said.

The documents, dubbed the Farewell dossier, also laid bare Moscow's priorities by including a KGB "shopping list", which the CIA then exploited. It included software to run pumps, turbines and valves. The CIA hatched a plan to allow the KGB to get its hands on doctored software that would operate normally for a reasonable period of time before malfunctioning. The plan was enthusiastically backed by President Reagan.

"While there were no physical casualties from the pipeline explosion, there was significant damage to the Soviet economy," Mr Reed said. "Its ultimate bankruptcy, not a bloody battle or nuclear exchange, is what brought the Cold War to an end."

[Maplegyver]

nein

smells of usual CIA BS to me,
I know computers, buigged software can't make pipelines go boom, even if it did if anyone would have a manual cutoff it's the Soviets, they loved simplicity and sturdiness in their machines. (see T-34, IL-2, SU-25)

[Merlin122]

lol cool

[imported_Fluffy_Bunny]

I doubt it's bs, it's in quite a few national newspapers & the commies admitted it.

[Merlin122]

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":09070]I doubt it's bs[/quote:09070]

yeah, why would the government lie to us? oOo:

[imported_Fluffy_Bunny]

http://www.cia.gov/csi/studies/96unclass/farewell.htm

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/ar ... 2003097438

http://seclists.org/lists/isn/2004/Feb/0011.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1069799/posts

http://www.ocnus.net/cgi-bin/exec/view. ... &num=10082

http://www.mail-archive.com/cypherpunks ... 08258.html

http://www.cicentre.com/Documents/DOC_F ... ossier.htm

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/12-12- ... gi.65.html

& that's just a few.

[Unknown_Sniper]

[quote=Merlin122]

Originally Posted by "Fluffy_Bunny":8af55

I doubt it's bs

yeah, why would the government lie to us?[/quote:8af55]
to keep people from complaining and making problems

[WidowMaker555]

BLEH BLEH cuss:

[Eames]

To many pro-commies on this board.... hake: You forget that almost every great soviet technology was stolen from the west, their bombers were ripped from us design, the t-34 was designed by an american, the ak47 despite was kalishnikov says is a rip of the mp44, their mig jet program was started by the british giving stalin a rolls royce merlin jet engine after the war, and the designs for their fighters were rips of german designs, and their biggest theft...they stole the secrets to the atomic bomb. The cold war basicly consited of the us developing a technology and the soviets attempting to steal it.

I think the plan was brilliant of the cia, they gave those thieving bastards what they deserved. And for those of you that doubt a computer program can't trigure an explosion....you must remember what the program was designed to do, in this case to monitor and control the release of gas valves at a petrol plant...hmm common sense dictates that if the software thats monitoring it goes kaput...then something bads gonna happen.

gg cia

[Maplegyver]

so?

[Mr.Buttocks]

[quote="Cpl. Eames":cf6e5]To many pro-commies on this board.... hake: You forget that almost every great soviet technology was stolen from the west, their bombers were ripped from us design, the t-34 was designed by an american, the ak47 despite was kalishnikov says is a rip of the mp44, their mig jet program was started by the british giving stalin a rolls royce merlin jet engine after the war, and the designs for their fighters were rips of german designs, and their biggest theft...they stole the secrets to the atomic bomb. The cold war basicly consited of the us developing a technology and the soviets attempting to steal it.

I think the plan was brilliant of the cia, they gave those thieving bastards what they deserved. And for those of you that doubt a computer program can't trigure an explosion....you must remember what the program was designed to do, in this case to monitor and control the release of gas valves at a petrol plant...hmm common sense dictates that if the software thats monitoring it goes kaput...then something bads gonna happen.

gg cia[/quote:cf6e5]

sleeping:

[Maplegyver]

^ imwithstupid:

[geRV]

[quote="Cpl. Eames":4b63c]To many pro-commies on this board.... hake: You forget that almost every great soviet technology was stolen from the west, their bombers were ripped from us design, the t-34 was designed by an american, the ak47 despite was kalishnikov says is a rip of the mp44, their mig jet program was started by the british giving stalin a rolls royce merlin jet engine after the war, and the designs for their fighters were rips of german designs, and their biggest theft...they stole the secrets to the atomic bomb. The cold war basicly consited of the us developing a technology and the soviets attempting to steal it.



gg cia[/quote:4b63c]


The ak-47 and stg-44 look similar but are very different internally. Can't forget about the americans stealing the flying wing technology from the germans or the m-60 (cough mg-42) from the germans either and fuck knows how many other things they stole.

[imported_Fluffy_Bunny]

A bomb courtesy of nazi scientists, their record swept clean.
ME262 technology to create early jets
All brit scientific secrets 1940

All countries steal from each other & then claim the glory for their own, check out everest, was it the brit guy who reached the top first or his sherper/sepoy from Nepal?