NASA: Mars was once 'soaking wet'

ninty · **NASA: Mars was once 'soaking wet' -** 03-03-2004, 04:48 PM

NASA: Liquid water once on Mars
Red planet may have been hospitable to life
By Marsha Walton
CNN
Tuesday, March 2, 2004 Posted: 4:45 PM EST (2145 GMT)

(CNN) -- Mission accomplished.

NASA scientists say the Mars rovers have found what they were looking for -- hard evidence that the red planet was once "soaking wet."

"We have concluded the rocks here were once soaked in liquid water," said Steve Squyres of Cornell University. He's the principal investigator for the science instruments on Opportunity and its twin rover, Spirit.

"The second question we've tried to answer: Were these rocks altered by liquid water? We believe definitively, yes," Squyres said.

Squyres and other NASA officials made the announcement at NASA headquarters in Washington, after several days of giving tantalizing hints that something significant had been discovered.

"Three and a half years ago, in July 2000, we were on stage here to talk about sending two rovers to get evidence of past water. NASA and its international partners have turned those dreams to reality," said Ed Weiler, NASA associate administrator for space science.

Scientists used instruments on board the golf cart-sized rovers to study the composition of the rocks and soil on the planet. The rocks' physical appearance, plus the detection of sulfates, make the case for a watery history, and more important, an environment that could have been hospitable to life.

While reporters pushed the scientists to come up with a "when" for the existence of water on Mars, Squyres said it was very difficult to infer an age simply by looking at pictures. He said a physical examination of samples would be the only way to to get close to a time frame.

Squyres did offer a couple of scenarios on what might have happened that led to the current discoveries:

One is that there was a volcanic eruption, possibly many eruptions, and volcanic ash settled out onto the Martian surface. Subsequently, water could have percolated through the ground, altering the ash to the chemical composition it has today.

Another possibility, said Squyres, is that there was a salty sea at the Meridiani Planum location, perhaps with currents, possibly even waves. As the water evaporated, the salt would settle out.

"Both are fundamentally possible," said Squyres. "But we may never know."

Spirit and Opportunity were sent to opposite sides of the planet with the possibility of investigating different types of terrain. Spirit, the first rover to arrive on January 3, landed near the Gusev Crater, which may once have held a lake.

But geologists and other researchers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, were thrilled when they saw the possibilities surrounding Opportunity, which landed three weeks later. It landed inside a small crater in the Meridiani Planum, one of the flattest places on the planet. And its landing site was within driving distance for the spacecraft to reach an exposed slice of bedrock.

Since its landing January 25, Opportunity has used the same tools as a human field geologist would to determine the chemical contents of the rocks. Using an alpha particle X-ray spectrometer, a device that can identify chemical elements, scientists have identified a high concentration of sulfur in the bedrock.

The Mars rover Opportunity examines an area dubbed "El Capitan."
Another instrument on board, a Moessbauer spectrometer, has detected an iron sulfate mineral known as jarosite. From their knowledge of rocks on earth, scientists say rocks with as much salt as this Mars rock either formed in water, or had a long exposure to water after they were formed. The scientists say these rocks could have formed in an acidic lake or even a hot springs.

Scientists say the case for a watery past is further strengthened by the pictures taken by the rovers' panoramic cameras and its microscopic imager. One target rock, named "El Capitan," is filled with random pockmarks. Geologists say a texture like that comes from sites where salt crystals have formed in rocks that have sat in salt water.

Scientists say they have gained other clues from the physical appearance of the rocks. They see a pattern called "crossbedding," which is often the result of wind or water moving across the rock's surface.

So what is ahead for the final few weeks of the rovers' operations on Mars?

"We need to take a close look at the outcropping, and broaden our view to get a better understanding of the geology of the region, which is about the size of Oklahoma," said Joy Crisp, project scientist at the Jet Propulsion Lab. She said there are also plans to drive about 740 meters east to a crater that has been nicknamed "Endurance."

And in the longer term?

"It's clear we have to do a sample return, both for the scientific side and in preparation for human landing," said Weiler. He said future Mars missions would also include miniaturizing equipment, and landing equipment that would help prepare for the eventual landings of humans. That might include tests for toxicity in the soil, and to determine if there are any materials that humans might find useful when they do arrive.

The cost of the two rover missions is about $820 million. With solar panels and lithium-ion battery systems aboard, each rover is expected to function and communicate with earth for about 90 Mars days, known as "sols." That's equivalent to 92 earth days.

Sgt. Paine · 03-03-2004, 04:52 PM

what now? hoover dam on there? thats cool news BTW.

Nyck · 03-03-2004, 04:52 PM

thats what happens when it watches hot black hole penetrating interplanetary secks

Short Hand · 03-03-2004, 04:55 PM

amazing just amazing. This better make the nightly news. rock: This has to be one of the biggest discoverys in quite some time.

Neo Nazi Hitler · 03-03-2004, 04:58 PM

good find indeed.

reminds me of like 2 years ago..in 8th grade..

some fat ugly girl who we call 'mitch' asked a question to my science teacher we'll never forget..

"Has anybody ever landed on the sun?"

YES, SHE WAS VERY SERIOUS WHEN SHE ASKED.

Recycled Spooge · 03-03-2004, 05:00 PM

[quote="Neo Nazi Hitler":5fa9c]good find indeed.

reminds me of like 2 years ago..in 8th grade..

some fat ugly girl who we call 'mitch' asked a question to my science teacher we'll never forget..

"Has anybody ever landed on the sun?"

YES, SHE WAS VERY SERIOUS WHEN SHE ASKED.[/quote:5fa9c]
I'm in the sun right now. It's warm.

Sgt. Paine · 03-03-2004, 05:00 PM

[quote="Neo Nazi Hitler":c8e6f]good find indeed.

reminds me of like 2 years ago..in 8th grade..

some fat ugly girl who we call 'mitch' asked a question to my science teacher we'll never forget..

"Has anybody ever landed on the sun?"

YES, SHE WAS VERY SERIOUS WHEN SHE ASKED.[/quote:c8e6f]

you shoulda knocked that bitch teh fug out!!!!!!

TonyMontana · 03-03-2004, 05:02 PM

[quote="Sgt. Paine":abc36][quote="Neo Nazi Hitler":abc36]good find indeed.

reminds me of like 2 years ago..in 8th grade..

some fat ugly girl who we call 'mitch' asked a question to my science teacher we'll never forget..

"Has anybody ever landed on the sun?"

YES, SHE WAS VERY SERIOUS WHEN SHE ASKED.[/quote:abc36]

you shoulda knocked that bitch teh fug out!!!!!![/quote:abc36]

or tell her to go to the sun and tell you how the weather is there

ninty · 03-03-2004, 05:04 PM

[quote="Neo Nazi Hitler":24c70]good find indeed.

reminds me of like 2 years ago..in 8th grade..

some fat ugly girl who we call 'mitch' asked a question to my science teacher we'll never forget..

"Has anybody ever landed on the sun?"

YES, SHE WAS VERY SERIOUS WHEN SHE ASKED.[/quote:24c70]

Heh.

I was watching "Newsnight with aaron Brown" on CNN a few days ago, well not really watching, but he was doing his thing with the headlines of the papers for the morning news and they did one for the national enquirer or some tabloid. It said "North Koreans plan mission to sun: top science advisor says they will 'go at night when it's not so hot'" or something to that effect. Bloody halarious.

TonyMontana · 03-03-2004, 05:06 PM

[quote=ninty9]

Quote:

Originally Posted by "Neo Nazi Hitler":80b89

good find indeed.

reminds me of like 2 years ago..in 8th grade..

some fat ugly girl who we call 'mitch' asked a question to my science teacher we'll never forget..

"Has anybody ever landed on the sun?"

YES, SHE WAS VERY SERIOUS WHEN SHE ASKED.

Heh.

I was watching "Newsnight with aaron Brown" on CNN a few days ago, well not really watching, but he was doing his thing with the headlines of the papers for the morning news and they did one for the national enquirer or some tabloid. It said "North Koreans plan mission to sun: top science advisor says they will 'go at night when it's not so hot'" or something to that effect. Bloody halarious.[/quote:80b89]

send all the frickin north koreans to the sun, they need to die

Recycled Spooge · 03-03-2004, 05:08 PM

HAH! What a coincidence. I'm on the sun, and I just happen to be North Korean.

TonyMontana · 03-03-2004, 05:11 PM

[quote="Recycled Spooge":47793]HAH! What a coincidence. I'm on the sun, and I just happen to be North Korean.[/quote:47793]

fuck.

Fireal · 03-03-2004, 05:32 PM

Great find.
I find it intresting that there was/is oxygen on mars. This could very well be a breakthrough in maybe one day living on mars.

Eight Ace · 03-03-2004, 06:32 PM

[quote="Recycled Spooge":2b53d]
I'm in the sun right now. It's warm.[/quote:2b53d]

"Hot enough for ya?" .../RadioActive Man voice

Neo Nazi Hitler · 03-03-2004, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireal

Great find.
I find it intresting that there was/is oxygen on mars. This could very well be a breakthrough in maybe one day living on mars.

yeah it really makes you think, wtf was that arnold schwarzenager movie where he was on mars and shit, total recal? I forget, but, anyway, remember that part at the end, where the created an atmostphere of oxygen on mars, when they heated up the ice or something?

If they had more active valcanos and actual oceans, life could easily live there rock: