Ammunition for the Conservative

Drew · **Ammunition for the Conservative -** 05-11-2004, 10:52 PM

http://www.gop.com/bigspender

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Samuel Thompson wrote: "I don't believe in Santa Claus, but
I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December."
I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution. Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game. "But it's a Christian prayer," some will argue. Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles. And we are in the Bible Belt. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody chanting Hare Krishna? If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer. If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer. If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha. And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit. When in Rome...
"But what about the atheists?" is another argument. What about them?
Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of earplugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer. Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations. Christians are just sick and tired of turning the
other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us just to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying. God, help us. And if that last sentence offends you, well...just sue me. The silent majority has been silent too long... it's time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard, that the vast majority don't care what they want...it is time the majority rules! It's time we tell them, you don't have to pray, you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance, you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right... but you are no longer going to take our rights away.

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> You know, it is easy to forget the 'promises' that Bill and Hillary made while in office. It strikes home when it is listed like this:
>
>
> After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
>
> BUSH COVERED IT!
>
>
> After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
>
> BUSH COVERED IT!
>
>
> After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
>
> BUSH COVERED IT!
>
>
> After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible! would be hunted down and punished.
>
> BUSH COVERED IT!
>
>
> After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
>
> BUSH COVERED IT!
>
>
> Maybe if Clinton had kept his promise, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, D.C. that are now dead would be alive today.
>
>
> BUSH TOLD THOSE FIREMAN -- THEY WOULD HEAR US TOO!
>
> And, now that Bush is taking action to bring these people to justice, we have Democrats charging him with being a war monger.
>
>
>
> AN INTERESTING QUESTION: This question was raised on a Philly radio call-in show. Without casting stones, it is a legitimate question. there are two men, both extremely wealthy. One develops relatively cheap software and gives billions of dollars to charity. The other sponsors terrorism. That being the case, why was it that the Clinton administration spent more money chasing down Bill Gates over the past eight years than Osama bin Laden?
>
> THINK ABOUT IT!
>
>
> It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forthcoming memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who have spent the past 8 years being unable to recall anything about past events while under oath!
>
>
>
> Sincerely, Cmdr Hamilton McWhorter USN(ret)

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THE ROBIN WILLIAMS PEACE PLAN

This may very well be the best thought out item we have read since 9/11/01.
Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan ... what we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.

I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan.

1. The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Noriega, Milosovich and the rest of those good ol' boys: We will never "interfere" again.

2. We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one sneaking through holes in the fence.

3. All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. France would welcome them.

4. All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5. No "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a "D" (for "deport") and it's back home baby.

6. The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing non-polluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.

7. Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go some place else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

8. If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides, most of what we give them is stolen or given to the Army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

9. Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island some place. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

10. All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way no one can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer. The language we speak is ENGLISH.....learn it...or LEAVE...

Now, ain't that a winner of a plan.
The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying "Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses." She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, "You want a piece of me?"

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> John Kerry:
> "Man of the common folk"
>
> .... "He understands your pain !@"
>
> The many homes of Democrat Presidential candiate, John F. Kerry.Fox Chapel, Pennsylvania (Assessed value: $3.7 million) Ketchum, Idaho ski getaway/vacation home (Assessed value: $4.916 million) Washington, D.C - Georgetown area (assessment: $4.7 million) Nantucket, Massachusetts waterfront retreat on Brant Point (Assessed value: $9.18 million) Boston, Massachusetts - Beacon Hill home (Assessed value: $6.9) Oh ~! And he sold this estate in Italy to activist actor George Clooney,
> just before announcing his running for president.
> I guess he thought it might not sit well with the common man. ($7.8 million) Other foreign property ownership by John Kerry is unknown...
> because he denied repeated requests for this information. Please e-mail this information to all your friends, family and contacts.
> "Class warfare" is not right, but neither is being a hypocrite.
> This man wants to be our president, while claiming that he relates to
> Joe-6-pack and the common man.
>
> He wants to raise income taxes on the rich.
>
> Well, guess what ?
>
> He won't pay those taxes because he is already rich !
>
> He wants to make it harder for you to get rich by raising taxes on your income !
>
> Talk about snobbery and protecting his "class."

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> >Subject: BUSH & THE POPE
> >
> > The Pope is visiting DC and President Bush takes him out for an
> >afternoon
> >sailing on the Potomac in the presidential yacht, the Sequoia.
>They're
> >admiring the sights when, all of a sudden, the Pope's hat (zucchetto)
> blows
> >off his head and out into the water.
> >
> >Secret Service guys start to launch a boat, but Bush waves them off,
> >saying, "Wait, wait. I'll take care of this. Don't worry."
> >
> >Bush then steps off the yacht onto the surface of the water, walks
>out
> >to
> >the Holy Father's little hat, bends over and picks it up, then walks
> back
> >to the yacht and climbs aboard. He hands the hat to the Pope amid
> stunned
> >silence.
> >
> >The next morning, the Washington Post carries a story, with front
>page
> >photos, of the event. The banner headline is: "Bush Can't Swim".

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I think that's it for now. GG Conservatives rock:

TonyMontana · 05-11-2004, 10:54 PM

Vance · 05-11-2004, 10:57 PM

You're totally right about the John Kerry thing, the dude has like 4 mansions oOo:

Judas · 05-11-2004, 10:57 PM

elstatec · 05-11-2004, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

stfu

go sketch some unicorns

1080jibber · 05-11-2004, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance

You're totally right about the John Kerry thing, the dude has like 4 mansions oOo:

his fucking wifes family owns Heinz!!!!!1
think about it

1080jibber · 05-11-2004, 11:13 PM

[quote:c45cc]Cost of Campaign Promises

# Campaign Proposals: Estimate, $1,910,859,050,000Near-Universal Health Care Coverage, $895 Billion
# Mandatory Funding For Veterans Health Care, $211 Billion
# Allow Medicaid To Pay For More Alternative Care Outside Of Nursing Homes, $200 Billion
# Real Deal For Education, $200 Billion
# Temporarily Increase Number Of Active-Duty Troops By 40,000, $80 Billion
# Fully Fund Head Start, $58 Billion
# Aid To States, $50 Billion
# National Service Plan, $35 Billion
# Allow Full Concurrent Receipt To Disabled Veterans, $24.844 Billion
# Increase Spending For Homeland Security, $20 Billion
# Create An Energy Trust, $20 Billion
# Extend Unemployment Benefits, $17.538 Billion
# Increase Federal Pell Grant Funding, $16 Billion
# Spend $15 Billion More Than President Bush By 2008 For International AIDS Programs
# Increase Funding For Child Development Block Grant, $11 Billion

# Give Funding To Auto Industry For Energy-Efficient Vehicles, $10 Billion
# Build High-Speed Rail, $7.9 Billion
# Fund Urban Park And Recreation Recovery Program, $7.25 Billion
# * Increase NASA Research Funding, $5.654 Billion
# * Increase Department Of Energy Research Funding, $4.446 Billion
# * Expand Job Training, Education, And Service Programs, $3.85 Billion
# Double Funding For GEAR UP, $2.98 Billion
# * Increase Funding For Research On Microbicides And Other Technologies Women Can Use To Reduce Risk Of HIV Infection, $2.2125 Billion
# * Increase National Science Foundation Research Funding, $2.126 Billion
# ** Restore And Double Funding For Manufacturing Extension Partnership, $1.83 Billion
# Extend Amount Of Time Military Families Can Stay In Housing After Family Member Killed-In-Action, Make Family Separation Allowance Permanent, Increase Death Gratuity, $1.5 Billion

# * Increase Funding For Indian Health Service, $1.4835 Billion
# Increase Funding For Superfund, $1.38 Billion
# * Increase Funding For Drug Treatment Programs, $1.319 Billion
# Ensure Conservation Reserve Program Has Adequate Funding, $774 Million
# Pass The American Dream Act, $726 Million
# * Provide New Funding For Faith-Based Charities, $550 Million
# * Expand Funding For TRIO Program, $416.5 Million
# Expand Family And Medical Leave Act, $400 Million
# Restore Benefits To Legal Immigrants, $350 Million
# Extend Hate Crimes Legislation, $110 Million
# Provide Adequate Funding For Endangered Species Act, $64.7 Million
# Increase To $10 Million Funding For Project ACTION, $70 Million
# Enact Employment Non-Discrimination Act, $22 Million
# Pass Native American Small Business Development Act, Creating Office Of Small Business Affairs And New Grant Program At SBA, $20 Million

# Increase Minimum Wage, $16 Million
# Ensure Equal Pay For Women, $12 Million
# * Increase Funding For Tribal Colleges, $11.9 Million
# * Increase Funding For Tribal Courts, $2.95 Million
# (* Estimate Based On A Five Percent Increase From President's FY 2005 Request.)
# (** Estimate Based On Highest Revenue Amount Achieved - FY 2003 Funding.)[/quote:c45cc]

whats wrong with this, and why are you americans so affraid of taxes?

Tripper · 05-11-2004, 11:20 PM

Im bored.

intrestedviewer · 05-11-2004, 11:23 PM

You expect me to read all that?????????! freak:

Madmartagen · **Re: Ammunition for the Conservative -** 05-12-2004, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctis

> You know, it is easy to forget the 'promises' that Bill and Hillary made while in office. It strikes home when it is listed like this:
>
>
> After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
>
> BUSH COVERED IT!

bush covered what?? in the clinton administration caught and arrested the people involved. they are currently serving time in prison. what the fuck did Bush cover? Bin Laden is still running around, I cant believe you would actually post this. rolleyes: >
>
>
>
> Maybe if Clinton had kept his promise, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, D.C. that are now dead would be alive today.

WTF?? who was in office when it happened asshat?? how many reports coming out told Bush what was going to happen?? where was bush in the summer, was he investigating leads? no, he was on vacation.>
>
> BUSH TOLD THOSE FIREMAN -- THEY WOULD HEAR US TOO!

wow, i can hear the church bells ringing, yeeeha bring out choir hyuck hyuck he also choked on a pretzel!>
> And, now that Bush is taking action to bring these people to justice, we have Democrats charging him with being a war monger.
>
> aw boo fucking hoo, lets rewind back to when clinton was bombing serbian troops in kosovo and promoting as newt gengrich called it "useless nation building." the same fucking thing happened back then.>

> AN INTERESTING QUESTION: This question was raised on a Philly radio call-in show. Without casting stones, it is a legitimate question. there are two men, both extremely wealthy. One develops relatively cheap software and gives billions of dollars to charity. The other sponsors terrorism. That being the case, why was it that the Clinton administration spent more money chasing down Bill Gates over the past eight years than Osama bin Laden?

wow what a great example involving two completely unrelated issues. see this is how both sides of fucknuts slow down the the task of governing our country. you bring up bullshit that doesnt make sense, and you spend months debating over it. i have another, how many poor african nations is bush going to liberate in his term? how many terrorists did ronald reagan go after? bush has been in office for nearly a complete term and was supposedly after bin laden in sept of 2001. has he been caught? no. do we know where he is remotely? kind of. how many small time fucknuts were spackled on tv to show that bush is winning the war on terror. probably alot. is terrorism still rapant in the middle east? yes. how many tax dollars and how much effort was spent IMPEACHING a standing president for lying about getting his wang mouthified??>
> THINK ABOUT IT!
>
>
> It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forthcoming memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who have spent the past 8 years being unable to recall anything about past events while under oath!
>
> yeah im sure bush wont make a book with the republican 'think' tank about his ventures from 2000-2004>
> Sincerely, Cmdr Hamilton McWhorter USN(ret)

>
> >Subject: BUSH & THE POPE
> >
> > The Pope is visiting DC and President Bush takes him out for an
> >afternoon
> >sailing on the Potomac in the presidential yacht, the Sequoia.
>They're
> >admiring the sights when, all of a sudden, the Pope's hat (zucchetto)
> blows
> >off his head and out into the water.
> >
> >Secret Service guys start to launch a boat, but Bush waves them off,
> >saying, "Wait, wait. I'll take care of this. Don't worry."
> >
> >Bush then steps off the yacht onto the surface of the water, walks
>out
> >to
> >the Holy Father's little hat, bends over and picks it up, then walks
> back
> >to the yacht and climbs aboard. He hands the hat to the Pope amid
> stunned
> >silence.
> >
> >The next morning, the Washington Post carries a story, with front
>page
> >photos, of the event. The banner headline is: "Bush Can't Swim".

did this really happen? i mean the article in the washington post?? if the story is true then gg bush.
I think that's it for now. GG Conservatives rock:

there is too much shit in there to argue, noc, but let me end it with this. its not that im totally pro clinton and am going to stand here and defend everything coming at his reputation. in fact i know there was alot of shit that he fucked up and alot of other shit that he should have done better, like somalia for instance. but thats how the story goes. each president makes mistakes and its the job of the next one to point the finger. i dont like taking sides on shit like this because i dont like politicians in general. they lie, cheat, steal and are in the business only to be politicians. but i also dont like staunch supporters bent on 'getting in our opinion because its rarely spoken openly.' gimme a break about not having a right wing voice, ok? this country can only get better when the two parties are purged of the old timers and 'career' politicians and make room for new blood. this finger pointing shit pisses me off and it will set us up for some real trouble later on in life. i dont like bashing bush anymore than i like defending clinton, but people like you who complain about hypocrites, while being hypocritical themselves annoy me.

Infection_Smith@ · 05-12-2004, 03:02 AM

I actually agreed with what alot of Noctis said in the beginning part of the posts...until I found out it was another of his wacky pro-republican posts..again.

MrLevinstein · 05-12-2004, 05:43 AM

[quote="Infection_Smith@":a283d]pro-republican posts..again.[/quote:a283d]

rock:

Now a days the only place I can find a decent amount of republicans is nascar, and car forums.