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				05-12-2004, 01:12 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 Drug Enforcement Administration = DEAImmigration and Naturalization Service = INS
 Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms = ATF
 Federal Bureau of Investigation = FBI
 Los Angeles Police Department = LAPD
 New York Police Departament = NYPD
 Federal Emergency Management Agency = FEMA
 United States Post Service = USPS
 United States of America = USA
 
 Secret Service = SS ??? Why not ???
 
 USA wants to be politically correct or something ?
  
            
               
 
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				05-12-2004, 01:17 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 The SS is cooler than the Secret Service. |  
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				05-12-2004, 01:18 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 Its an acroynm, so what?  oOo: |  
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				05-12-2004, 01:19 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 Hmmm you're totally right!
 Too bad the Secret Service was created 100 years before the SS.  Oh well, back to the anti-US drawing board.
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				05-12-2004, 01:24 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 They should change "Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms" to "Whiskey, Tobacco, and Firearms" and call teh department "WTF".  biggrin: 
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				05-12-2004, 01:30 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 
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				 They should change "Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms" to "Whiskey, Tobacco, and Firearms" and call teh department "WTF".  biggrin: 
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				05-12-2004, 01:47 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 
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				 They should change "Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms" to "Whiskey, Tobacco, and Firearms" and call teh department "WTF".  biggrin: 
 [img]http://reichnation.com/uploads/wtf_spec_agent.gif[/img]
 
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				05-12-2004, 01:56 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 Interesting point of view.
 I suppose the US can be related to Nazi Germany in several ways, but I prefer this one:
 
 The New Roman Empire.
 
 Our innovations and technology are the envy of the world.
 Our systems of government and law are the standard for sucess in the modern world.
 Our attitudes and styles are adopted in every corner of the planet.
 Our troops march arcoss the planet as one of the most respected and feared armies in the world.
 Our language is taught in more countries than any other.
 Our culture and lifestyle is the embodiment of wealth and prosperity.
 
 Sure these things can be debated in thousands of different ways, but if you look at it with some knowledge of history, I think the only comparison that can acuratly be made would be with Ancient Rome.
 
 Consider this: At the height of its power Rome had 120 million people within its borders. Bringing those peoples cultures and traditions into itself and including them into Romes culture. No place on earth has such a thing ever hapened on such a grand scale until the late 1700s, and what is today the US.
 
 Here is anouther interesting similarity: The Roman empire developed the most complex and diverse tradding network on the planet. They did not grow most of there own food, they had to have it imported. The US has done the same thing.
 
 Our language, our numbers, our money, even our government is based on Rome. Like Rome we have had our Civil War based on government power and economic structure. Like Rome we see ourselves as the saviors of Earth.
 
 Just as Romans we are veiwed the world over as wealthy and pompous.
 
 And just as Alexander councoured Persia 2300 years ago for trade rights, the same has been said of Bush and his war for oil.
 
 To me, the US is the new Roman Empire, and I believe history will remeber it as the great civilization of an age. With its glories and its faults.
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				05-12-2004, 02:04 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 yes thats true zen. its kind of weird in a way, to me, it looks as if there is a pattern involved. I guess you could say that china was the first to have this kind of power, then it went to greece, rome, britain and now the us. maybe its some kind of pattern?? |  
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				05-12-2004, 02:36 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 [quote:48550]They did not grow most of there own food, they had to have it imported. The US has done the same thing. [/quote:48550]
 
 Thats is news to me. Maybe we should stop paying our farmers to not grow food any more. stupid:
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				05-12-2004, 02:38 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 
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				 [quote:fc27e]They did not grow most of there own food, they had to have it imported. The US has done the same thing.  |  Thats is news to me. Maybe we should stop paying our farmers to not grow food any more. stupid:[/quote:fc27e]
 
You one of those hicks that cant read properly, farmerboy? |  
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				05-12-2004, 02:45 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 
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				 ]The New Roman Empire. |  brilliant comparison.... |  
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				05-12-2004, 02:52 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 As TGB said we had Secret Service before schiklegruber was in diapers;but I think what we did to Dresden more than makes up for the copyright infringement and slander of the SS name  biggrin:
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				05-12-2004, 02:55 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 
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				 Interesting point of view.
 I suppose the US can be related to Nazi Germany in several ways, but I prefer this one:
 
 The New Roman Empire.
 
 Our innovations and technology are the envy of the world.
 Our systems of government and law are the standard for sucess in the modern world.
 Our attitudes and styles are adopted in every corner of the planet.
 Our troops march arcoss the planet as one of the most respected and feared armies in the world.
 Our language is taught in more countries than any other.
 Our culture and lifestyle is the embodiment of wealth and prosperity.
 
 Sure these things can be debated in thousands of different ways, but if you look at it with some knowledge of history, I think the only comparison that can acuratly be made would be with Ancient Rome.
 
 Consider this: At the height of its power Rome had 120 million people within its borders. Bringing those peoples cultures and traditions into itself and including them into Romes culture. No place on earth has such a thing ever hapened on such a grand scale until the late 1700s, and what is today the US.
 
 Here is anouther interesting similarity: The Roman empire developed the most complex and diverse tradding network on the planet. They did not grow most of there own food, they had to have it imported. The US has done the same thing.
 
 Our language, our numbers, our money, even our government is based on Rome. Like Rome we have had our Civil War based on government power and economic structure. Like Rome we see ourselves as the saviors of Earth.
 
 Just as Romans we are veiwed the world over as wealthy and pompous.
 
 And just as Alexander councoured Persia 2300 years ago for trade rights, the same has been said of Bush and his war for oil.
 
 To me, the US is the new Roman Empire, and I believe history will remeber it as the great civilization of an age. With its glories and its faults.
 |  but hopefully we; armed with the knowledge of history; will not let the US fall into the kind of decandence as experienced by the Roman Empire; which led to their downfall.
 
So far we're not feeding Muslims to lions to entertain the public, so I think we're in good shape  biggrin: |  
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				05-12-2004, 03:33 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 
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				 Thats is news to me. Maybe we should stop paying our farmers to not grow food any more. stupid: |  Naturally all things are debatable, and I have no desire to argue with you, but I do know that American farmers have had to fight for their place in America for 100 years because of vast imports and taxes. 
Just as with Rome, Farming is not an encouraged occupation in America.
 
We would much rather have Doctors, Lawyers, Scientists, Soldiers, and Entertainers...to hit on Strykers point.
 
A good point made by Stryker there too.
 
But of course times have changed, and feeding the lions is not an acceptable pastime anymore. But how close we are.....
 
Take the recent interest in Reality TV for example. We tune in by the millions to watch the triumpts and failures of comman folks in life threatning situations.  
We feed on it as though we can smell the blood through the screen. |  
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