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Default Minority Report - 10-02-2004, 12:34 AM

ok, so I bought this on DVD the other day, never seen it before, popped it in my dvd player, sat back and watched it

now, can someone please explain to me what the fucking hell happened? I'm so confused about this, there was too much information to comprehend for my tiny brain.


***possible spoiler for those who have not yet seen it***


now when john (tom cruise) is convicted of murder, they say he murdered that Crowe guy and Danny Witward? I never seen him kill a danny witward, please explain this, was his death a precrime or what?

and what about the "echo" thing they talked about, does that mean two deaths occured one after another in the same place, and the guys at precime didnt think anything of the second murder so they call it an "echo"?

and When Agatha the precog says "she wants her back" wtf is she talking about?

and explain to me what happend to john's son Sean? did he die? and how?

and what was the set up thing, with all the pictures on the bed of that Crowe guy. This is oh so complex for me.

and wtf does "minority report" mean? does it me only ONE precog predicted something different out of the other 2? I got lost on some parts.

also funny mentionables - when John drops his eyes and the start rolling down the hall, and when he has the bandages over his eyes he goes to the fridge and eats/drinks all the spoiled food, I loled at that.


overall, I did like this movie, it's good to watch if you're in a thinking mood.
  
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Default Re: Minority Report - 10-02-2004, 02:31 AM

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now when john (tom cruise) is convicted of murder, they say he murdered that Crowe guy and Danny Witward? I never seen him kill a danny witward, please explain this, was his death a precrime or what?
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no - he was setup so he was convicted of PRECRIME

[quote:a1e2b]and what about the "echo" thing they talked about, does that mean two deaths occured one after another in the same place, and the guys at precime didnt think anything of the second murder so they call it an "echo"?
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some crimes have "echo" 2 versions of the same murder - so the echo is just ignored (its sorta like a glitch in the precrime system) now the echo of the other guy killing wasnt an echo - so it was ignored. (the only difference being the water was traveling outwards instead of inwards)


[quote:a1e2b]and When Agatha the precog says "she wants her back" wtf is she talking about?
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cant remember this bit.

[quote:a1e2b]and explain to me what happend to john's son Sean? did he die? and how?[/quote:a1e2b]
no one knows exactly what happended but when he went to that guys flat - it was a setup to try and get john to kill him because he though he kidknapped sean.

[quote:a1e2b]and what was the set up thing, with all the pictures on the bed of that Crowe guy. This is oh so complex for me. [/quote:a1e2b]
see above.

[quote:a1e2b]and wtf does "minority report" mean? does it me only ONE precog predicted something different out of the other 2? I got lost on some parts. [/quote:a1e2b]
minority report is the system (precrime) the precog's work better together rather than just one (but the one john was carrying was the main one and can work on its own)

This is what i can remember of the film (some bits of info might be incorrect)
  
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Default Great explanations - 10-02-2004, 09:54 AM

I'll admit this, I had to see the movie twice to understand it ..

But I wasn't as confused like when I saw Momentum, and Vanilla Sky .. now those movies left you both confused, and thinking for long periods of time.
  
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Default 10-02-2004, 09:56 AM

You mean Memento?


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Default 10-02-2004, 10:03 AM

Yes thanks, it was a while since I saw it
  
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Default Re: Minority Report - 10-02-2004, 10:22 AM

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ok, so I bought this on DVD the other day, never seen it before, popped it in my dvd player, sat back and watched it

now, can someone please explain to me what the fucking hell happened? I'm so confused about this, there was too much information to comprehend for my tiny brain.


***possible spoiler for those who have not yet seen it***


now when john (tom cruise) is convicted of murder, they say he murdered that Crowe guy and Danny Witward? I never seen him kill a danny witward, please explain this, was his death a precrime or what?

and what about the "echo" thing they talked about, does that mean two deaths occured one after another in the same place, and the guys at precime didnt think anything of the second murder so they call it an "echo"?

and When Agatha the precog says "she wants her back" wtf is she talking about?

and explain to me what happend to john's son Sean? did he die? and how?

and what was the set up thing, with all the pictures on the bed of that Crowe guy. This is oh so complex for me.

and wtf does "minority report" mean? does it me only ONE precog predicted something different out of the other 2? I got lost on some parts.

also funny mentionables - when John drops his eyes and the start rolling down the hall, and when he has the bandages over his eyes he goes to the fridge and eats/drinks all the spoiled food, I loled at that.


overall, I did like this movie, it's good to watch if you're in a thinking mood.

John is accused of killing Danny witward because johns gun is used by Lamar Burgis to kill Danny. And with the "precogs" missing Agatha, they couldnt see it before it happened.

An echo is simply the precogs seeing the crime again, even after it has been stopped by agents. Its not a second murder, just the same one being seen a second time. In the case of Ann Livly it was in fact a second murder set up to look like the predicted murder, so precrime would think it was an echo, and ignore it.

When Agatha says "she wants her back" she was talking from the perspective of Ann Livly, Agatha's mother who wanted her kid back after cleaning up her drug habit. Instead she was killed, with her own child predicting it would happen.

Sean is kidnapped at a public pool, its assumed he's dead since Crowe didnt actually have anything to do with it. So basically ignore everything Crowe said about the kid.

The set up with the pictures was Lamar getting rid of John because John had drug problems that he knew would effect Danny's investigation. Lamar knew the only way to get rid of him would be to drive him into a murderous rage, precrime would stop him, it would show the system worked, even on internal cases.

A minority report was when Agatha predicted a second outcome to a murder, differant from the other two prcogs. They were hidden away since if there was the possiblity that what they were predicting wasnt absolute, then precrime itself was flawed.

Watch it a few more times... Sober.
  
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Default 10-02-2004, 11:01 AM

holy shit thanks, it now makes the movie more clear, I think ill watch it again and ill understand it alot better now that I know wtf is going on.

but Ill watch the specail features first dance:

Ill keep this thread open for those who are interested in this movie and still want to discuss,

and I might post some more questions if they come to me

thanks again dance:
  
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Default Re: Minority Report - 10-02-2004, 11:29 AM

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***possible spoiler for those who have not yet seen it***


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Default 10-02-2004, 11:41 AM

Great movie, this is definatly one of my all time favorites.


  
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Default 10-02-2004, 12:10 PM

i like the ''eye'' doctor in minority report.....reminds me of my dentist
  
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Default 10-02-2004, 02:01 PM

Memento > Minority Report

Minority Report is a good movie. I don't now why you buy DVDs before seeing them first.


  
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Default 10-02-2004, 02:32 PM

i cant believe you guys had to watch it twice to get it ... not all that "mysterious".

if you want movies that you HAVE to watch more than once to even start to understand try a david lynch. some of his ive watched > 10 times and each time find something new.
  
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Default 10-02-2004, 02:34 PM

David Lynch owns.


  
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Default 10-02-2004, 02:45 PM

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Memento > Minority Report

Minority Report is a good movie. I don't now why you buy DVDs before seeing them first.

cuz I rather own a movie and I like collecting them, plus I dont feel like walking back and forth to the mall to rent/return it.
  
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Default Re: Minority Report - 10-02-2004, 04:22 PM

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and wtf does "minority report" mean?
They must keep an eye out on the minorities! You know... Mexicans, Jews, Blacks... dead people... murderers, and mormons!
  
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