[Machette]

For all the people in here that are actually interested in media control by the dominant elites...you should really read this article. It's very long buts it's really worth it. Written by Noam Chomsky. biggrin:

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herma ... Model.html

[ninty]

Isn't Noam Chomsky a super left win anarchist?

I'll read the article and get back to you.

[Machette]

Yup he is a Libertarian socialist which is basically Anarchy. One great example which he usually tells his readers is the grand scale over taking in the Spanish Civil War..really does work if you look at what happened.

[Machette]

ninty9 thoughts? seems as if people in this fourm dont like reading to much information.. eek:

[ninty]

I read half way, and then I had to stop to watch the superbowl. i'll read the whole thing tomorrow when i have some time in the morning if i can get this financial managment project out of the way.

anyway, from what i've read so far, he does have some valid points.

I like the idea that he presents that the media can be crafted through whatever the government tells them. If your at a press confrence, and they say something, the newspaper will run what they said without looking into facts, or trying to decipher the real meaning.

Although, is this the medias job? is it really their job to gather information, and then be responsible for backchecking and asking questions on the government and such? The most obvious answer for all of us is yes, how can the media not ask these questions.

but if the media is run by higher ups, then they really can't question them.

Its also a nationalism thing. A reporter gets a story from a company, or from the government. it seems like it is anti-american to once you've gathered the info, go and check it to make sure its legit. to me it just doesn't seem if the media went into investigate every story, like it would work.

personally i think the media is there just to report what is happening. not really investigate what is happening. i think this way because everyone has an agenda. and when you put the responsibility on the media to find things out for you, you rely on it too much, and it'll turn on you. I think its up to the individual to come to their own conclusions. rely on those who are looking to better their country or the world, rather than those who are trying to make money.

i don't know if any of what i wrote makes any sense, but hopefully i'll read it tomorrow fully and write my thoughts.

[Machette]

Theres lots of organizations out there that watch the media, organizations like FAIR which are widley known through certain intelluctuals...site: http://www.fair.org/ pretty interesting what they cover..p.s ninty9 rock:

Think media sparked my interests after writing a few essay's for my politics course and then further readings from books and other articles.

[ninty]

thats true. i never really though of the media watchers.

this kind of discussion sparks my interest as well. too bad we're in the minority, not just here, but all over North America and the world really.

thanks for the link also.

I still haven't read the rest of the article. wallbash:

need to do that sometime.

[Machette]

There was an episode of the fifth estate 2 weeks ago on liberal bias in media, they covered a media watching group that was created by an American Congressman..They touched on the bill o reilly show and how he creates false facts in arguments (there is also an article that was in yesterdays the globe and mail review section) such as when he spoke with a globe and mail reporter and he stated that the Paris Business Board wrote a summary of there economy and since the Americans Boycotted them that they serverly lost billions of dollars...but CBC reports they never found such a document written by the Paris Busniess Board...they gave lots of other examples...hopefully you may have watched it.

[Merlin122]

Originally Posted by Machette

Yup he is a Libertarian socialist which is basically Anarchy. One great example which he usually tells his readers is the grand scale over taking in the Spanish Civil War..really does work if you look at what happened.

libertarianism and socialism are two completely different things, you're probably thinking of leftist libertarian

[Machette]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

[Merlin122]

Originally Posted by Machette

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

i see what you mean but thats not the best name for it considering the main ideals of socialism and libertarianism conflict with one another severely

[Machette]

The term has been around for a while..not like Chomsky created it. oOo:

[ninty]

Originally Posted by Machette

There was an episode of the fifth estate 2 weeks ago on liberal bias in media, they covered a media watching group that was created by an American Congressman..They touched on the bill o reilly show and how he creates false facts in arguments (there is also an article that was in yesterdays the globe and mail review section) such as when he spoke with a globe and mail reporter and he stated that the Paris Business Board wrote a summary of there economy and since the Americans Boycotted them that they serverly lost billions of dollars...but CBC reports they never found such a document written by the Paris Busniess Board...they gave lots of other examples...hopefully you may have watched it.

I heard about it. O'reilly had a fit about it on his show, but I never actually saw the doc. I'll try and look for it somewhere.

[Machette]

rock: