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Default Feds after Google data - 01-19-2006, 10:43 AM

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RECORDS SOUGHT IN U.S. QUEST TO REVIVE PORN LAW
By Howard Mintz
Mercury News

The Bush administration on Wednesday asked a federal judge to order Google to turn over a broad range of material from its closely guarded databases.

The move is part of a government effort to revive an Internet child protection law struck down two years ago by the U.S. Supreme Court. The law was meant to punish online pornography sites that make their content accessible to minors. The government contends it needs the Google data to determine how often pornography shows up in online searches.

In court papers filed in U.S. District Court in San Jose, Justice Department lawyers revealed that Google has refused to comply with a subpoena issued last year for the records, which include a request for 1 million random Web addresses and records of all Google searches from any one-week period.

The Mountain View-based search and advertising giant opposes releasing the information on a variety of grounds, saying it would violate the privacy rights of its users and reveal company trade secrets, according to court documents.

Nicole Wong, an associate general counsel for Google, said the company will fight the government's effort ``vigorously.''

``Google is not a party to this lawsuit, and the demand for the information is overreaching,'' Wong said.

The case worries privacy advocates, given the vast amount of information Google and other search engines know about their users.

``This is exactly the kind of case that privacy advocates have long feared,'' said Ray Everett-Church, a South Bay privacy consultant. ``The idea that these massive databases are being thrown open to anyone with a court document is the worst-case scenario. If they lose this fight, consumers will think twice about letting Google deep into their lives.''

Everett-Church, who has consulted with Internet companies facing subpoenas, said Google could argue that releasing the information causes undue harm to its users' privacy.

``The government can't even claim that it's for national security,'' Everett-Church said. ``They're just using it to get the search engines to do their research for them in a way that compromises the civil liberties of other people.''

The government argues that it needs the information as it prepares to once again defend the constitutionality of the Child Online Protection Act in a federal court in Pennsylvania. The law was struck down in 2004 because it was too broad and could prevent adults from accessing legal porn sites.

However, the Supreme Court invited the government to either come up with a less drastic version of the law or go to trial to prove that the statute does not violate the First Amendment and is the only viable way to combat child porn.

As a result, government lawyers said in court papers they are developing a defense of the 1998 law based on the argument that it is far more effective than software filters in protecting children from porn. To back that claim, the government has subpoenaed search engines to develop a factual record of how often Web users encounter online porn and how Web searches turn up material they say is ``harmful to minors.''

The government indicated that other, unspecified search engines have agreed to release the information, but not Google.

``The production of those materials would be of significant assistance to the government's preparation of its defense of the constitutionality of this important statute,'' government lawyers wrote, noting that Google is the largest search engine.

Google has the largest share of U.S. Web searches with 46 percent, according to November 2005 figures from Nielsen//NetRatings. Yahoo is second with 23 percent, and MSN third with 11 percent.[/quote:32f82]

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Won't someone think of the children! cry:
  
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Default 01-21-2006, 06:07 PM

Porn is bad for you.


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Default 01-21-2006, 06:27 PM

its about as bad for you as a glass of water
  
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Default 01-21-2006, 06:29 PM

I think a guy at militaryphotos said it best.

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Google knows more about you than the US government. Its all about data mining. The whole porn issue is just a big coverup.
  
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Default 01-21-2006, 07:36 PM

This is a prime example of why the control of the Net (ICANN) should not reside on US soil and should rather be international. But thankfully google realises how ludicrous of a request this is so eh.


  
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Default 01-21-2006, 07:43 PM

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This is a prime example of why the control of the Net (ICANN) should not reside on US soil and should rather be international. But thankfully google realises how ludicrous of a request this is so eh.
yeah so you can have multiple countries doing the same thing. the US govt rarely, if ever, does this stuff.
  
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Default 01-21-2006, 08:11 PM

nope. Maybe it would be governed under international law and would benefit the users of the world or to be a free for all type of thing like the web is, but as ICANN is under contractual links to the U.S. Government and the U.S. Department of Commerce so you wont see that happening anytime soon.

Or as the god of the world wide web said 'Every aspect of the Internet should function as a Web, rather than a hierarchy. Notable current exceptions are the Domain Name System and the domain naming rules managed by ICANN.'


  
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Default 01-21-2006, 08:12 PM

I wish I invented Google


  
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fuck that, i wish i owned the majority of google's stock.
  
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Default 01-22-2006, 02:02 PM

Microsoft and Yahoo! handed over the data straight away - gg faggots!


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Default 01-22-2006, 02:05 PM

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":529d3]Microsoft and Yahoo! handed over the data straight away - gg faggots!


ps: [url="http://www.teambio.org/2006/01/q-why-does-the-doj-need-a-million-google-results/"]http://www.teambio.org/2006/01/q-why-do ... e-results/[/url][/quote:529d3]

Microsoft hasn't denied or admitted to giving anything to the DOJ. Yahoo said they gave something, can't remember what but it wasn't full access, and Time Warner only gave a small amount too.

That link is pretty funny.
  
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Default 01-22-2006, 02:35 PM

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Microsoft hasn't denied or admitted to giving anything to the DOJ.

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Default 01-22-2006, 02:51 PM

Who cares
  
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Default 01-22-2006, 05:14 PM

not you now, but when the feds come to your house to arrest you for your animal porn collection, then you will care.


  
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Default 01-22-2006, 05:15 PM

nah, only people who have done something wrong care about this
  
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