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Default We're all going to die from radiation - 10-03-2006, 11:30 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217658,00.html

f'ing north korea. This stuff is making me nervous. Economic sanctions in the near future? Or just more warnings? Or on the other side of the spectrum, a full-blown invasion?


  
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Default 10-03-2006, 11:52 PM

Why do you read/watch fox news?

Its clearly and obviously bias. Why would you subject yourself to something that is bias? Whether or not it is tailored to your audience. I've never understood this.

Ontopic: They've declared that in the situation of using them, god forbid, they would never be the first to do so.

I dunno, but if I were kim jong, and I had the U.S all over my shit, I'd pursue a nuclear weapons program. Just as a deterant to an invasion. It just seems like a smart move strategically against someone who is invasion-crazy and has outlined you as a potential next target.
  
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Default 10-03-2006, 11:56 PM

i think you can take out the bias if you wanted to. Just take the jist of the story. North Korea wants to do some nuclear testing. There. That's the topic. Discuss.


  
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Default 10-04-2006, 07:44 AM

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Why do you read/watch fox news?

Its clearly and obviously bias. Why would you subject yourself to something that is bias? Whether or not it is tailored to your audience. I've never understood this.

Ontopic: They've declared that in the situation of using them, god forbid, they would never be the first to do so.

I dunno, but if I were kim jong, and I had the U.S all over my shit, I'd pursue a nuclear weapons program. Just as a deterant to an invasion. It just seems like a smart move strategically against someone who is invasion-crazy and has outlined you as a potential next target.
1) Can you name a news outlet that isn't biased one way or the other. Learn what the bias is and treat the news accordingly.

2) You believe Kim Jong wouldn't use his weapons first. ed:

3) You would use nuclear weapons as a defence for invasion.

I'm not sure that you have thought these scenarios through.


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Why do you read/watch fox news?

Its clearly and obviously bias. Why would you subject yourself to something that is bias? Whether or not it is tailored to your audience. I've never understood this.

Ontopic: They've declared that in the situation of using them, god forbid, they would never be the first to do so.

I dunno, but if I were kim jong, and I had the U.S all over my shit, I'd pursue a nuclear weapons program. Just as a deterant to an invasion. It just seems like a smart move strategically against someone who is invasion-crazy and has outlined you as a potential next target.
1) Can you name a news outlet that isn't biased one way or the other. Learn what the bias is and treat the news accordingly.
I can name a series of news sources that aren't as bias as Fox

2) You believe Kim Jong wouldn't use his weapons first. ed:
I believe he's smart enough to know that its over for him as soon as he uses them. I also believe after Iraq, you guys have pretty much lost your credibility for telling other countries what to do.

3) You would use nuclear weapons as a defence for invasion.
I would use them as a DETERANT. Like I said in the first place, you would have noticed had you read my post properly.

I'm not sure that you have thought these scenarios through.
I'm not sure that you have thought these scenarios through.
  
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Default 10-04-2006, 04:53 PM

its the way your leaders would have you percieve it as, regardless of what news network you read it off, they way you react to it is the way they would have you react to news of Iraq and the Weapons of Mass Destructionz!



France tested nuclear weapons. Russia did. China did. USA did. UK did. So if North Korea wants to flex some muscles then they can go ahead and do so
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Default 10-04-2006, 07:59 PM

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France tested nuclear weapons. Russia did. China did. USA did. UK did. So if North Korea wants to flex some muscles then they can go ahead and do so
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have you forgotten that Mr. Kim is a lunatic? He starves his own people. He steals from the UN and gives it to his soldiers. There are MANY government sponsored and horrible things going on by HIS word. Communism is awesome, aint it?

All those countries you've named ahve some sort of democratic body to them. Mr. Kim is a lunatic that wears platform shoes to appear taller.


  
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France tested nuclear weapons. Russia did. China did. USA did. UK did. So if North Korea wants to flex some muscles then they can go ahead and do so
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have you forgotten that Mr. Kim is a lunatic? He starves his own people. He steals from the UN and gives it to his soldiers. There are MANY government sponsored and horrible things going on by HIS word. Communism is awesome, aint it?

All those countries you've named ahve some sort of democratic body to them. Mr. Kim is a lunatic that wears platform shoes to appear taller.
China is real democratic these days.
  
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Default 10-04-2006, 10:03 PM

maybe i should edit out the "all" in my statement. But I think you get the point.


  
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Default 10-30-2006, 10:53 AM

Kim Jong Il is not all there, I dont trust him with nukes. We're pretty much out of range, but he could hit China or Japan. I say leave this one to our azn homies to deal with for now.
  
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Default 10-30-2006, 11:42 AM

Your mobile phone's more dangerous than North Korea. You should worry about that.
  
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Default 10-30-2006, 04:47 PM

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I dunno, but if I were kim jong, and I had the U.S all over my shit, I'd pursue a nuclear weapons program. Just as a deterant to an invasion. It just seems like a smart move strategically against someone who is invasion-crazy and has outlined you as a potential next target.
lol, I can't believe you think the US has designs on invading north korea WITHOUT nuclear weapons that KJI needs them to prevent it. That's the furthest thing from the truth. If the US did half of the provoking shit to the north koreans as they do us, they would have re-invaded long ago.

Edit: FOX, CNN, all those news places are all pretty retarded when it comes to thing sort of thing. They're scaring the crap out of everyone in the US for the ratings.
  
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Default 10-30-2006, 07:03 PM

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I dunno, but if I were kim jong, and I had the U.S all over my shit, I'd pursue a nuclear weapons program. Just as a deterant to an invasion. It just seems like a smart move strategically against someone who is invasion-crazy and has outlined you as a potential next target.
lol, I can't believe you think the US has designs on invading north korea WITHOUT nuclear weapons that KJI needs them to prevent it. That's the furthest thing from the truth. If the US did half of the provoking shit to the north koreans as they do us, they would have re-invaded long ago.
exactly. The only reason the US (and they wouldn't do it alone, it would be a bunch of countries) would ever invade NK is because of KJI trying to get nukes, so claiming that he needs them as a deterrent to the US is kind of circular logic.
  
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I dunno, but if I were kim jong, and I had the U.S all over my shit, I'd pursue a nuclear weapons program. Just as a deterant to an invasion. It just seems like a smart move strategically against someone who is invasion-crazy and has outlined you as a potential next target.
lol, I can't believe you think the US has designs on invading north korea WITHOUT nuclear weapons that KJI needs them to prevent it. That's the furthest thing from the truth. If the US did half of the provoking shit to the north koreans as they do us, they would have re-invaded long ago.
exactly. The only reason the US (and they wouldn't do it alone, it would be a bunch of countries) would ever invade NK is because of KJI trying to get nukes, so claiming that he needs them as a deterrent to the US is kind of circular logic.
Really? The U.S invaded Iraq because of WMDs, and it turned out they didn't even have any. Whats so hard to believe about you guys doing the same thing to the Koreans? It probably looked to Kim Jong Il, like it looked to alot of people, that you guys just used WMDs as an excuse for an invasion, whether or not there is any truth there is irrelevant.
To someone as weird as Kim Jong Il, thats all you'd need to convince yourself that you are a potential next target. Nuclear weapons rid you off the list of countries that are likely to be invaded by americans.
  
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Default 10-30-2006, 10:51 PM

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Nuclear weapons rid you off the list of countries that are likely to be invaded by americans.
Their pursuance of testing nuclear weapons is what is making everyone not like them. I don't buy the argument that they think that the US is randomly going to invade them so they decided to get nukes just in case.
  
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