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Default Ping Problem!! - 10-18-2002, 09:40 PM

I re-installed mohaa and tried connecting to a server and got a ping of 250!! But that meant nothing, as i would lag about but in spectator mode the other players would run along smoothely. My ping did not change as it just stayed at 250. I then got out and joined another server. I then pinged out!

So I am asking for your help, what can i do? I have the settings at the lowest and the lowest rsoulution.

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P4 1.5 Ghz

256mb SDRAM

32mb Nvidia TNT2 Model 64

40.0 GB 8.26 GB left

56k



I know the 56k is decieving, but everyone else who is 56k gets lag but not like this. I never used to get lag this bad. I dont get it on other games.
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Default 10-18-2002, 09:42 PM

Maybe the server was in another part of the world as obviously the further away, the higher the latency. I certainly would not try a US server if i were on 56k in the United Kingdom.
  
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Default 10-18-2002, 09:45 PM

that was quick

im from canada. Not the UK. USA servers are good. I have patch 1.11. I use All Seeing Eye to scan for servers and it shows me a much lower ping then what i get!
  
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Default 10-18-2002, 09:54 PM

lol... i wouldnt expect you to be from the UK as it is in actual fact 4:45 in the morning here and im probably the only loser still up. Anyway, it may just have been a bad server you were connecting too which couldnt handle a 56k.

I know 56k is supposed to be better with servers because it doesnt take up so much bandwidth, but it does cause lag because the modem is constantly trying to catch up with whats happening in the server and causes it to slow down, where the information cant be read quick enough.

I have 512k Broadband and even i lag up sometimes because of the shite quality of the servers.

The reason it shows a much lower ping that what you actually get, is because the information which is being sent is quite small, maybe a byte or two and is measuring the time it takes to get from the server, to your computer. With much more data going through the line, it takes longer.
  
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Default 10-19-2002, 09:31 AM

i have tried many servers! and unless they were all bad (which i doubt) then it would explain something!! I used to be able to connect to UK servers and have little lag!! but those days have disappeared Help please
  
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Default 10-19-2002, 10:02 AM

Eak, im really not sure whats happening there. The problem must lie in your currecnt client-side connection. Are you sure you are connecting to the internet properly with at least 48,000bps. Cos sometimes it will fail and only connect at 24,000bps - even with a 56k modem.
  
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Default 10-19-2002, 04:36 PM

i get 45.2kbs. Our isp was out a couple of months ago and checked it out. He fixed the problem. It helped with rtcw but not mohaa. And i think it has nothing to do with the connection!
  
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Default 10-19-2002, 05:04 PM

Hmmm... It might even be something to do with the amount of RAM you have. I have 512mb of SDRAM and im running it with an 800MHz P3 CPU. The amount of memory does make alot of difference. Btw, your not running any background internet programs are you? Such as KaZaA, Instant messengers etc? Because they also could have a serious effect on your internet performance.

Or... Get cable :P
  
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Default 10-19-2002, 05:24 PM

live in a rural area, no cable. 256mb SDRAM, with P4 1.5 Ghz proccessor. It has nothing to do with specs because i used to get a good ping with mohaa, but it has vanished. o woo is me
  
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Default 10-19-2002, 09:20 PM

The Internet is a large and strange place.
Try this.
Open a dos window and type
tracert x.x.x.x

where the x's represent your IP address. This will show each hop or router to the final destination. If you see a lot of *'s then you have a bad router between you and the server. More then likely your ISP is having problems or performing maintenance, which in turn is effecting your connection.


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Default 10-20-2002, 05:51 AM

yea over the last 2 weeks i have noticed my ping has been gettin higher and higher i have seen me sitting at 110 ping in a uk server (i am from the uk) and i have a ntl 1mbit connection i have tried everything i can thing of, i have used visualroute,ping plotter and usually the ping is between 20-45, i even reduced my rate,maxpackets and snaps. mad:

I phoned my isp they said there was no problems with my line and i have did a full AV scan,last night i reformatted my HD reinstalled everything and still pings are quite high for my type of connection
and i know it aint spec related as i have a P4 2.6 Ghz (overclocked to 3.2 ghz) 1mb ram and GF4 TI4600. ed:

[quote:6622d] Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms [/quote:6622d]

now short of calling in mulder and scully has anyone any ideas or can u see something i aint tried. eek:
  
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Default 10-20-2002, 06:54 AM

Why are you pinging yourself? 127.0.0.1 or localhost is your loopback address or yourself. All your checking with this is your own network adapter)NIC) .
You need to put in the IP address of your provider. I know for a fact the UK was having problems the last couple of weeks. but should be back to normal

UUnet was experiencing High utilization that propagated all the way back here to the us.

This is what I get when I do a tracert from my PC to my game server:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
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C:\Documents and Settings\jim>tracert 66.151.108.123

[code:b6a3c]Tracing route to 66.151.108.123 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 29 ms 41 ms 5 ms 10.2.120.1
2 8 ms 6 ms 6 ms 68.9.8.85
3 9 ms 12 ms 11 ms 68.9.8.201
4 8 ms 36 ms 16 ms provdsrc02-gew0304.rd.ri.cox.net [68.9.14.17]
5 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms provbbrc02-pos0101.rd.ri.cox.net [68.1.0.48]
6 36 ms 62 ms 35 ms provdsrc02-gew03010999.rd.ri.cox.net [68.1.0.51]

7 39 ms 51 ms 35 ms so-6-0-0.gar2.wdc1.Level3.net [67.29.170.1]
8 39 ms 42 ms 36 ms so-7-0-0.edge1.Washington1.Level3.net [209.244.1
1.14]
9 40 ms 38 ms 36 ms POS1-1.BR1.IAD8.ALTER.NET [209.0.227.118]
10 35 ms 35 ms 36 ms 0.so-1-3-0.XR2.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.63.32.118]
11 37 ms 43 ms 45 ms 0.so-0-0-0.CL2.IAD5.ALTER.NET [152.63.38.142]
12 43 ms 41 ms 37 ms 201.at-2-0-0.XR2.DCA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.35.49]
13 38 ms 38 ms 37 ms 0.so-1-3-0.XL2.DCA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.35.118]
14 38 ms 43 ms 44 ms POS7-0.GW4.DCA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.36.177]
15 40 ms 39 ms 39 ms internap1-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.59.194]

16 55 ms 40 ms 39 ms border1.ge4-1-bbnet2.ext1.wdc.pnap.net [216.52.1
27.82]
17 41 ms 54 ms 39 ms netfire-2.border1.ext1.wdc.pnap.net [66.150.126.
58]
18 42 ms 55 ms 44 ms 216.52.118.2
19 41 ms 55 ms 50 ms 66.151.108.123

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\jim>[/code:b6a3c]

What we have here:19 hops, This means all my packets go threw a router/switch 19 times before reaching my destinations

[quote:b6a3c]1 29 ms 41 ms 5 ms 10.2.120.1 [/quote:b6a3c]
1 = hop number, this is the first router I hit.
29 ms = first packet took 29 ms to hit hop and get a response
41 ms = first packet took 41 ms to hit hop and get a response
5 ms = first packet took 5 ms to hit hop and get a response
10.2.120.1 = the physical IP address of this hop (router/switch)

Now I know for a fact that my first hop is less then 1 mile away. This is how close I am located to my local cable provider. as you can see tracert sends 3 packets and then averages the times . my first two are really high for this hop. My 3rd time is what it should be. If this keeps up I will contact my provider and complain. I also know they have been working on the truck line in my area.

I live in RI ( north east of the US ) my server is located on the east coast just south of me about 700 miles away.

I also know my cable provide's network exits and connects to the Internet in Atlanta ( east coast about 1800 miles away )

Looking at all the hops. My provider is exiting it's network in the DC area ( probably because of unrelated issues with UUnet )

This is good for me as my server is located in DC. Last week when my pings were over 500ms to my server. I was exiting out of Atlanta and going threw Dallas then Ohio to hit DC. Round trip over 4000 miles b4 hitting my server.

Also from the tracert I can see if my cable company is having problems kind of good because I can complain to them, don't know if it will do any good but still I have someone to complain to.

IF it was outside my providers network then there is nothing I can do. Possibly my provider can complain to there provider but since the Internet is a shared network it might do no good.

Hope this helps. I will be putting together a basic tracert , ping doc going a little more in dept. It wont be anytime soon though.


Good luck and try another tracert with your game server's IP and see what you get.


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Default 10-20-2002, 07:14 AM

here is the tracert to our clan server [quote:3e035]Tracing route to 195.149.21.221 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 8 ms 10 ms 8 ms 172.18.183.254
2 12 ms 17 ms 25 ms renf-t2cam1-b-v106.inet.ntl.com [80.4.64.153]
3 10 ms 12 ms 9 ms renf-t2core-b-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [62.254.191.
185]
4 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms ren-bb-b-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.85]
5 19 ms 27 ms 26 ms lng-bb-a-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.174]

6 24 ms 84 ms 22 ms gfd-bb-a-atm100-230.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.18
2]
7 22 ms 22 ms 47 ms gfd-bb-a-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.141]

8 24 ms 58 ms 26 ms linx-ic-1-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.78]

9 25 ms 23 ms 41 ms lon1-9.nildram.net [195.66.224.59]
10 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.126]
11 35 ms 26 ms 26 ms 195.149.21.221[/quote:3e035]

as u can see preety good yet when i join my ping is 60-100, 60 being if there is only a few ppl on the server and 100+ if the server is full
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Default 10-20-2002, 07:34 AM

Do you have any info on the server your connecting to? what type of connection is it running? could be them not you. They could be saturating the CPU on the nic when they get a full server. It then cant keep up with the traffic the connection can handle.

As your tracert looks very good.

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Default 10-20-2002, 02:29 PM

ehhh clan server is a jolt uberserver if that means anything to u
  
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