Can A Democratic Iraq Work?

Captain Bunny · **Can A Democratic Iraq Work? -** 12-14-2002, 05:06 PM

As those who watch the news know that several hundred iraqi represtitives have been in talks about having a democratic iraq if/when saddam is taken down.
Without saddam the other option is for Iraq to be run by the US if they cant work out a democracy. So, whats your views?

Innoxx · 12-14-2002, 05:49 PM

I'm for it.... if Dubya doesn't turn Iraq into a fucking Esso.

Totenkopf · 12-14-2002, 05:56 PM

You have asked one of the most important questions. Looking back on history, democracies have not worked in the middle east. This question is brought up in the book, "From Beirut to Jerusalem", that I am reading right now. The author gives some pretty strong arguements stating the a democracy may never work in the middle east due to the culture of the people there. His support for this arguement is chapters long, so I can't really explain it here. I suggest picking up the book, it's a very good read.

With the ousting of Saddam there will be a power vacuum, and the U.S., in part will be responsible for filling that void. But it isn't going to happen overnight. Occupation of Iraq by U.S., or U.N. soldiers will be a very likely situation. And as we are all aware, people can turn quickly against an occupying force even when they have the best intentions (i.e. Beirut, Somalia, etc.). It's not the war I am worried about, but what happens after it.

Captain Bunny · 12-14-2002, 06:07 PM

The 300+ reprisentatives were from all cultures and backgrounds, and have ben agreeing to help the people of iraq to give them the everyday freedoms that saddam has imposed a ban on. The only problem there is that anyone who is anyone knows that practically all polititions/leaders rarely keep their word. "lower taxes, more funds for schools and hospitals". we've heard it all before, so the situation in iraq is questionable as to exactly how things will change for the iraqi people.
I realise that the US do have a responsibilty with iraq but the US are not exactly popular there at the moment, so maybe US precence could make matters worse, as im sure the people of iraq would rather be run as an independant iraq without outsiders intervening.

Totenkopf · 12-14-2002, 06:25 PM

I guarantee you, a U.S. occupation force of any size in Iraq, will not go over well. It would be like Beirut or Mogadishu all over again, but on a much larger scale.

This is a region of the world that most of us don't, and will never truly understand. They play by a different set of rules. If you don't know those rules going it, you learn the hard way.

r3mix · 12-14-2002, 10:00 PM

same as asking how well a dictatorship would go down in the US. never had one.... never will.... and if a foreign power tried to set it up against the will of the population theres blood in the streets forever.

but the US knows best...... theyll make it work lmao.
and all these guys post here about how they cant wait to get into the military. heads up kids you the meat they gonna throw at this fuckup.... happened a dozen times before.... and you next.

12-14-2002, 10:39 PM

I doubt that it will work.

Iraq is basically a bunch of tribes that are all pissed at one another and no one wished to compromise (which is the basis of Democracy BTW). The only way they have order is when one of these tribes takes control and uses force to control the others (like the Ba'ath party has done since the 80s)

Old Reliable · 12-14-2002, 11:51 PM

maybe in 100 years theere will be a functioning democratic government that isn't a puppet of the US, but the factions within Iraq have more of a say than anyone else

CaP bUsTa · 12-14-2002, 11:55 PM

bush should just press the red button

r3mix · 12-15-2002, 02:03 AM

[quote="CaP bUsTa":aea0c]bush should just press the red button[/quote:aea0c]

he already tried that..... he couldnt figure out why liquid soap kept coming out.