[Snuff]

Does anyone know of a site where you can find out dealer invoice prices for GMAC vehicles. I'm not talking about a price quote from a dealer. I want to know what the dealer pays. beer:

[Zen]

I can anwser your question , I sold for GM for a year and a half.

What are you looking for?
Where do you live?
Are you looking for New or Used?

[Snuff]

2003 or 2004 Tahoe LT 2wd....new

Arkansas.... zip 71730

[MinorThreat]

I'm pretty sure you can get that info from a site like consumerreports.com for a small fee

[Snuff]

I tried kelly blue book but all the damn package options get confusing especially when you make a change...any help would be appreciated Zen

[Zen]

Ok.

1st off good choice , Tahoes are great.

I also have one. Mines a 1999 fully loaded , extra low miles. Got it for 14K , out the door.

If you are gonna buy a truck like that I suggest you go used. Mainly because of the 30K price differance.
New vehicles drop about 10% of their value every year until they are worth only about 40% of what was originally paid for them.

A new truck like that runs at about 45K or more depending on where you get it.

Now if you have decided to go used from what I have told you , hit Consumer Reports. I don't know the link but I'm sure you can find them. They have great tips for making sure you are not buying a bad truck.

The price factors for used veicles include:

1. Milage. If a veicle has more miles on it than what is projected , it's vallue is less. For instance... The standard is 30,000 a year. If you buy a veicle with 90,000 miles on it and it's only a year old , you are likely to get one hell of a deal on it.
2. Dealership maintanance. A veicle that has been on the lot for 6 months or more is a liability for the dealership. The costs of dailly cleanings , test drive gas , ect. has extended the profit margin. Thats why dealerships have sales to get rid of last years cars. Also holds true for used cars.
3. Delivery fees. You see this on new cars , but it is a factor for used as well. It costs about $100- $500 to have a car delivered to the dealership. Nothing can be done about that because the guy who brings it has to get paid. Now you may say , what about trade ins? Most cars that come from Trade ins are taken to Auction. However that is also where the dealership gets most of their used cars.
4. Invoice. With used cars it is impossible to say how much they paid for the car. They are going to sell it for what it is worth plus the above mentioned fees.
5. Sales force. The salesman will want to make something off of the sale. If you want tips for that just let me know and I can guide you to a win-win situation there.

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Do you still want to buy a Brand New Truck?

[Zen]

I am very familliar with Kelly , Any questions just ask.

[Snuff]

Thanks Zen...I'm going to digest what you have just told me and
add used to my search. I was really intending on a new vehicle
but I won't rule out a used if in excellent cond. low millage ect.
The reason for my initial post was becuae the salesman said he would sell it
500$ above invoice. current incentives on new:
2004- 3500$ rebate no cash incentives
2003- 6000$ rebate or 0% financing up to 72 months, no cash incentives.
If I could find what I wanted in an 03, do you think it would be
better to stay with a new one?

[Zen]

As far as finances go , thats your call. Meaning which is the better deal... Well that depends on you and how you want to pay for it.

The actual invoice price of a new vehicle is different for each dealership , because of the reasons listed above. Nowhere on the internet will you get an acurate price because of that.

Now I always suggested used to my customers. Because of masive depriciation. Often you can find what you are looking for in the same truck from 2-3 years ago and for about $10,000 less.

But after all it's your money and your new truck. I know one thing for sure , you will love that Tahoe! lol!