[ninty]

Yeah, this topic again.

Anyway, I was looking on globeandmail.com which is a national newspaper in Canada and I took a look at a poll located here:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... VoteResult

Keep in mind that this paper is quite "liberal" so those who read it are already biased. I don't read this paper because I don't like it, but I like to read their polls. The poll indicated 51% said they didn't believe in God. This is of course not scientific in any way, since its just an internet poll, but I do think its got some bearing. Take it for what its worth.

I then remembered that something like 91% of Americans believe in some sort of God. Now that seems like a HUGE discrepancy to me. I mean, we're not all that different from each other weather anybody likes it or not, or so we think.

Take a look at these links:

http://www.pollingreport.com/religion.htm

That first question baffles me. 60% think the story of Noah is literal? 60% believe that Noah went out and gathered 2 of every animal and got on a ship and survived a flood?

This is the problem with religion. I have no problems with the stories. These are great for teaching good vs. bad and those sorts of things, but the message needs to get out that these are stories, and did not actually happen. The story of Adam and Eve is just an explanation for the beginning of man, not actually what happened necessarily. I think that this mentality sort of leads to a blind eye to everything else. Dismissing everything else because what the bible says is literal and the only way things can be done.

And 42% said that the bible is actually the word of God. I pretty sure that God himself didn't write the bible, but men "interpreting" God's will did.

If nothing else, I find it a really interesting read.

As for the Evolution theory:

http://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/curre ... l-poll.htm

Here is also another good read:

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/ ... RTM0011021


Discuss. rock:

[101stSpeirs]

well, God spoke to most the writers in the Bible, so yeah, they were interprating from him. As for the stories being real or just explantions, i dont know, i mean, i beleive in God, and if i am right, and he is as powerful, then maybe some of the things really did happen.

[Pyro]

people are strange. I'm more liberal than conservative because the GST tax was the stupidest thing ever. But I read toronto sun cuz it's the least liberal and the best leaf coverage ever.

[ninty]

Originally Posted by 101stSpeirs

well, God spoke to most the writers in the Bible, so yeah, they were interprating from him. As for the stories being real or just explantions, i dont know, i mean, i beleive in God, and if i am right, and he is as powerful, then maybe some of the things really did happen.

I should have been a little clearer but supposedly the old testament is stories about life etc. and the new testament is supposed to be actual stuff. What I'm talking about is people taking the old testament literally, not the whole Jesus thing.

If I made a mistake there, please let me know.

[ninty]

Originally Posted by Pyro

people are strange. I'm more liberal than conservative because the GST tax was the stupidest thing ever. But I read toronto sun cuz it's the least liberal and the best leaf coverage ever.

Wouldn't liberals be more in support of taxes? It was it Mulroney who intorduced the GST right, and yeah their conservative, but isn't the liberal ideals more to do with taxes than conservatives?

[Pyro]

Originally Posted by ninty9

Wouldn't liberals be more in support of taxes? It was it Mulroney who intorduced the GST right, and yeah their conservative, but isn't the liberal ideals more to do with taxes than conservatives?

After any politician saw the benefits of the GST tax, they will never abolish it. All of them are greedy, at least the liberals are more ontario and quebec sided.

[Recycled Spooge]

Who cares? Christianity is the biggest waste of time ever. Unless you wanna understand Biblical allusions in modern literature, don't bother.

[Akuma]

Paganism is cool because it combines evolution/humans-are-just-a-part-of-nature with Deities.

[Madmartagen]

I believe in a God who created everything, but as for the Christian God, I dont believe any amount of guideance the bible should give me. To me, the bible was written by sexist, prude, and greedy men who became corrupted by power and used the power of the church to forge an empire that commanded the kingdoms of the middle ages. Do I believe that Jesus was the son of God? Probably not, he was probably one of those men you see on street corners. To me, any organized religion itself is a group of fanatics whose followers are people who have surrendered their God given ability to think for themselves. I am my own religion.

[SoLiDUS]

[quote="Recycled Spooge":52f9f]Who cares? Christianity is the biggest waste of time ever. Unless you wanna understand Biblical allusions in modern literature, don't bother.[/quote:52f9f]

It feels good to sheeple though... Behhhhhhh.

[Old Reliable]

a "god" acts with too much randomness these days.....he doesn't seem to pay much attnetion to the middle east rolleyes:

[imported_Fluffy_Bunny]

The bible is about as historically accurate as the Hitler Diaries, the books were written about 100 years or so after Jesus death & even then they were edited many times by different people etc. & as for Jesus, people were ignorant of science etc back then & there's crackpots around today who have epillectic (sp) fits &tc & believe they are God. Perhaps this Jesus chap was just another crackpot who thought he was God & manage to convince the disciples.

I rate the Old Testament much more than I do the New Testament as the Old Testament, especially the creation stories, are taken from the earliest written accounts known to man "Enuma Elish. This was written 2,000 years before the bible yet it is overwhelmingly similar to Genesis. & the pattern of the creation story is repeated throughout nature. The New Testament, on the other hand & IMHO, is merely an account on how to live a good Christian life according to the stories of Jesus.

It is probably best to study a number of religions if you are serious about believing in God &tc, rather than just going along with all that hillbilly christian, happy clappy, bullsh&t. Just because everyone else believes in God you have too, it is far better to come to this conclusion yourself from study rather than "Divine Intervention". The Greeks believed in & were willing to die for their Gods & so were the Vikings. When's the last time you saw someone offering a prayer to Zeus & Thor? If these Gods are wrong why the hell should Jesus be right? We are only Christian because our belief was spread & defended by the sword & that's a fact.

I don't deny that there could be a higher being (God, or Gods) because there is no concrete proff to deny that;
however a literal interpretation of the Bible, Koran, etc. is so full of contradictions to scientific facts that these interpretations cannot be true in literal interpretation.

[Akuma]

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":c7517]Whens the last time you saw someone offering a prayer to Zeus & Thor?[/quote:c7517]

My coven worships Thanatos, Moros, Ares, Athena, Bellona, Janus, Mars, Juno, Luna, Freyr, Hel, Odin, Anubis, Hathor, Osiris and a few others that I can't remember off the top of my head.

Greek, Roman, Norse, and Egyptian deities are all honored in Wicca.

[imported_Fluffy_Bunny]

stupid: