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05-24-2004, 02:08 AM
I was watching the History channel today and saw this awesome show about the "7 wonders of the military" and they showed this vehicle called, "The sea shadow". It was one of the weirdest looking boats I've seen in my life. I thought it was pretty interesting...check out the site for more pics
[url:a1515]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/sea_shadow.htm[/url:a1515]
[img]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/shadows.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/SeaShadow-sc.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/sea-shadow-ts0015-xg-50_2.jpg[/img]
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05-24-2004, 02:17 AM
Yea, i saw one of those under the San Francisco bridge once oOo: but thse things are kinda old.
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05-24-2004, 02:26 AM
Uhm.. Tomorrow Never Dies, anyone? oOo:
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05-24-2004, 05:27 AM
one in james bond is bigger
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05-24-2004, 09:45 AM
I heard they're working on a Destroyer that has the same concept in design.
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05-24-2004, 09:59 AM
[img]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/sea-shadow-ts0015-xg-50_2.jpg[/img] nice computers they got there.
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05-24-2004, 10:43 AM
There's some wierd ships being designed lately, check out the hull on this thing:
[img]http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/data/%5B(1645)-08-02-2002%5D%5B(1023)-27-04-2001%5Dtriton250.jpg[/img]
wtf oOo:
[img]http://news.mod.uk/img/pressdatabase/images/supportingImages/large/type45_01_tn.jpg[/img]
Even the frogs are at it
[img]http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/al_riyadh/images/AlRiyadh_7.jpg[/img]
The new USN Destroyer stupid:
[img]http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/dd21/images/dd21_1.jpg[/img]
They just don't look like ships anymore annoy:
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05-24-2004, 10:58 AM
[quote="Garry Coleman":d95e1]I heard they're working on a Destroyer that has the same concept in design.[/quote:d95e1]
yeah called the DDX [url="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/dd-x.htm"]http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... p/dd-x.htm[/url]
unfortunately the boys in washington are putting way too much attention into this stealth fetish/obsession and not enough in making the ship seaworthy/battleworthy.
First of all, as soon as you turn on your radar to shoot something; everyone will see you; that's why F-117s and B-2s only use IR and laser designators. The Russians have a nice little radar seeking toy called the Kh-31, a supersonic missile that has been sold to just about everyone; it would just love to punch a few holes in CSS Merrimack MkII biggrin:
Secondly: seaworthiness, Navy types say if it looks like the Merrimack it most likely floats like one too. All the ones I've spoken to in this matter say they would not go to sea on THAT in bad weather.
Thirdly: railings reflect radar pretty well, but if they don't put railings on the ship its a man-over-board festival.
They would be better off making the ship harder to hit/sink by increasing her point defense and generally making her tougher; hell a real damage control party wouldn't hurt, the small crews they have planned for these ships wouldn't be able to handle fighting AND fire/DC.
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05-24-2004, 11:33 AM
[quote="Sgt Stryker":78ea3][quote="Garry Coleman":78ea3]I heard they're working on a Destroyer that has the same concept in design.[/quote:78ea3]
yeah called the DDX [url="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/dd-x.htm"]http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... p/dd-x.htm[/url]
unfortunately the boys in washington are putting way too much attention into this stealth fetish/obsession and not enough in making the ship seaworthy/battleworthy.
First of all, as soon as you turn on your radar to shoot something; everyone will see you; that's why F-117s and B-2s only use IR and laser designators. The Russians have a nice little radar seeking toy called the Kh-31, a supersonic missile that has been sold to just about everyone; it would just love to punch a few holes in CSS Merrimack MkII biggrin:
Secondly: seaworthiness, Navy types say if it looks like the Merrimack it most likely floats like one too. All the ones I've spoken to in this matter say they would not go to sea on THAT in bad weather.
Thirdly: railings reflect radar pretty well, but if they don't put railings on the ship its a man-over-board festival.
They would be better off making the ship harder to hit/sink by increasing her point defense and generally making her tougher; hell a real damage control party wouldn't hurt, the small crews they have planned for these ships wouldn't be able to handle fighting AND fire/DC.[/quote:78ea3]good points there. Sometimes it just seems so damn odd how the US government spends their money on development of "pointless" weapons. In the future, I doubt much war will be conducted with stealth ships when you can just bomb from a plane or shoot a rocket off from your homeland.
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