[Drew]

Just heard a WWII infantry veteran being interviewed on the news:

"This seems like something that our generation would do. This is something that they would do. It honors all the people who fought in the war, but mostly those who lost their lives. Above all, this honors the ones who lost their lives."

"I think that this is great. Those of us who made it through have had the opportunity to live through a Golden Age for this country. I am thankful to have been a part of that for the last 60 years. But we weren't the only ones fighting. I owe my being here to the country, to the great industry of our country that gave me the planes I was flying over there."

"That's the difference. When we went to war, the whole country went to war. We have that same situation going on now, where it's life or death. No one was trying to find out who was at fault for Pearl Harbor, or the Batan Death March, we just picked up what we had and went forward to win the war. The whole country went to war together, and that's what you have to do. It has to be the whole country. No one was looking back to find the flaws or lay blame, we just looked forward and we would worry about that after we won the war. That's what we need to do now."

I'd like to hire these guys to talk to the Liberals. Thanks. Maybe you don't realize what you are doing, but your constant crying about how our country is evil and our war is unjust.. why don't you just go over there and shoot the soldiers in the head yourself? You are destroying their morale. This is what happened in Vietnam. The Liberals kept spewing their viral anti-American shit and it began infecting the troops. We are there now. You can't change that by bitching about it at every turn. So you can support your troops or just fly over and fight for al-Sadr's fucking militia.

This country is shit now. I apologize for what my generation - and what my parents' generation - did to it. I apologize every single day.

[Old Reliable]

ignorant move. who says a liberal can't respect previous generations?

[Drew]

[quote="Old Reliable":cabfa]ignorant move. who says a liberal can't respect previous generations?[/quote:cabfa]

They disrespect it every day by bashing, spitting on and throwing away everything they fought for.

damn those liberals.

[Old Reliable]

ok i consider myself to have views farthest from conservative but I do notice a difference between world war 2 and the current war in iraq and vietnam. our entry was caused by a direct attack on hawaii. vietnam, although many can argue it was an attack on our values, was just another example of southeast asian geopolitical containment policy.
removing an authoritarian regime in a year and then installing a democratic election by june 30th is extremely difficult. I can't say I'm a fan of american politics lately because of the inability to put the money where it needs to be...
i respect anyone who is willing to step into a warzone. it is the ultimate death machine and the most horrible thing known to mankind. lets face it, you can never get everyone to agree with you in a democracy...it is built upon conflicting ideas as opposed to the authoritarian dictator who sets the rules.

although you represent a conservative pov, I do agree that we need to pool our resources into ending this conflict within iraq. if we can pull together and achieve somekind of reconciliation between us and the iraqi people, others will see that an arab state IS possible of something other than islamic rules dictating their lives completely.

sorry if it is incoherent, im lazy to edit

ok if you dont read any of what i typed before, I wanted to say that whenever a war is started and your country is involved...it is necessary to end it as soon as possible in the most efficient manner. however, the reasons for starting a war not caused by direct assault are questionable. since our bush administration was acting on motive and not a defense from a direct iraqi attack, the answer to that question is negligible in the transition to iraqi democracy. we can't pull out of iraq, we are there to stay, no matter what.

[Pyro]

I still think the conservative approach to american fucked it up A LOT more than the liberal approach.

[Madmartagen]

Wow, another Noctis anit liberal thread. Just because some people dont think this war is right or just anymore, or didnt support it from the beginning, doesnt mean they are anti american. There were people who were against going to war in both world wars, but world war 2 was unlike any other war. how can you even compare todays conflicts to world war 2, They arent even similar. Besides, if they had TV and the amount of coverage we had today back then, im sure you would have had alot more protesting and 'anti-americans' in our countrys history.

[strvs]

You're worse than pyro.

[Madmartagen]

Originally Posted by strvs

You're worse than pyro.

i was just thinking that too. pyro has a habit of bringing all this canada vs america shit, but noctis likes to keep americans fighting other americans. dumbass.

[Merlin122]

Shut up some time.

[Pyro]

Originally Posted by Madmartagen

i was just thinking that too. pyro has a habit of bringing all this canada vs america shit, but noctis likes to keep americans fighting other americans. dumbass.

noctis is acting more anti-american with this thread than i ever did...

[Madmartagen]

Originally Posted by Pyro

noctis is acting more anti-american with this thread than i ever did...

that is true, but whever something happens in the international scene, you like to bring up a bush thing and it gets something going. my example wasnt really a flame, just an observation.

[Merlin122]

Originally Posted by Noctis

Just heard a WWII infantry veteran being interviewed on the news:

"This seems like something that our generation would do. This is something
have been a part of that for the last 60 years. But we weren't the only ones fighting. I owe my being here to the country, to the great industry of our country that gave me the planes I was flying over there."

"That's the difference. When we went to war, the whole country went to war. We have that same situation going on now, where it's life or death. No one was trying to find out who was at fault for Pearl Harbor, or the Batan Death March, we just picked up what we had and went forward to win the war. The whole country went to war together, and that's what you have to do. It has to be the whole country. No one was looking back to find the flaws or lay blame, we just looked forward and we would worry about that after we won the war. That's what we need to do now."

I'd like to hire these guys to talk to the Liberals. Thanks. Maybe you don't realize what you are doing, but your constant crying about how our country is evil and our war is unjust.. why don't you just go over there and shoot the soldiers in the head yourself? You are destroying their morale. This is what happened in Vietnam. The Liberals kept spewing their viral anti-American shit and it began infecting the troops. We are there now. You can't change that by bitching about it at every turn. So you can support your troops or just fly over and fight for al-Sadr's fucking militia.

This country is shit now. I apologize for what my generation - and what my parents' generation - did to it. I apologize every single day.

[img]http://www.artdolls.com/images/catalog/banjo.jpg[/img]

shut up and play your banjo

Originally Posted by Madmartagen

i was just thinking that too. pyro has a habit of bringing all this canada vs america shit, but noctis likes to keep americans fighting other americans. dumbass.

As Dan Akroyd said in 1941: the one thing I can't stand is Americans fighting Americans

[Pyro]

[quote="Sgt Stryker":68995]

Originally Posted by Madmartagen

i was just thinking that too. pyro has a habit of bringing all this canada vs america shit, but noctis likes to keep americans fighting other americans. dumbass.

As Dan Akroyd said in 1941: the one thing I can't stand is Americans fighting Americans[/quote:68995]

He was good in ghostbusters. Well the canadian one.