[Coleman]

[quote:286ca]TORONTO - A group of Canadian residents arrested in coordinated raids across the Toronto area for “terrorism-related offenses” had planned to blow up targets around southern Ontario, Canadian police said on Saturday.[/quote:286ca] ed:
it just isn't in the good ol' u s of a.

edit: sorry, forgot the link: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10663276/

[Machette]

Good friends of mine. eek:

[1080jibber]

I havent heard of this yet, any links?

Im too busy worrying about indians than terrorists [url:ac7a2]http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060523/blockade_dispute_060523/20060523?hub=Canada[/url:ac7a2]

my power was out for 2 fucking days cause of those fags mwah:

[Coleman]

Originally Posted by 1080jibber

I havent heard of this yet, any links?

it's all over the news eek:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/ ... index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198050,00.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006 ... ects_x.htm

edit: Sorry jibber, I totally forgot to put the link in my first post! wallbash: loney:

[HaVoc]

Good for us, we stopped them.

[1080jibber]

Originally Posted by Coleman

it's all over the news eek:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/ ... index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198050,00.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006 ... ects_x.htm

edit: Sorry jibber, I totally forgot to put the link in my first post! wallbash: loney:

thats some crazy shit ed:

[Unknown_Sniper]

Originally Posted by HaVoc

Good for us, we stopped them.

after watching them for years.

[HaVoc]

k?

[ninty]

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Conten ... 8793972154

[quote:a49df]
A Comment on the Terrorism in Toronto
Contributed by: The Old Poop
And so it begins...

The arrests last night in Toronto of several people involved in a terrorist bombing plot seem right on schedule, following as they do a few days after a news release by CSIS that we are breeding "home grown terrorists" in Canada.

There may have actually been a plot by some people to bomb something, but that doesn't concern me as much as what is going to follow from this all too convenient terrorist plot. We can soon expect to hear about the introduction of legislation designed to "protect us" from these nasty terrorists. Without a doubt the upcoming laws will remove even more of our civil liberties, intrude even more deeply into our privacy and place stricter limits on dissent.

In predicting our government's response to this incident, it seems the only way to save us from "terrorism" will be to become a fascist state. I can't speak for all Canadians, but I'd rather take my chances with terrorists than have "Big Brother" looking over our shoulders to make sure we're "good little citizens."

If anyone doubts that were already a surveillance society, I need only point out that the people arrested were probably under surveillance for some time. If they are homegrown terrorists, then I'll bet dollars to doughnuts they had their right to privacy violated long before there was any probable cause. I find that MUCH scarier than the bombs they allegedly had.

We are being led into a fascist state. Day by day, year by year, our freedoms will be taken from us if we allow it, and we have been allowing it thus far. This trend has to stop and it has to stop NOW. The alternative is that our children will grow up to live under a regime every bit as repressive as Hitler's Germany, or Stalin's USSR.

It would be far better to kick out any government that tries to involve Canada as a partner in the USA's current Imperial Crusade. Face it, "the terrorists" are mostly people who are sick of the US sticking its nose where it doesn't belong and terrorizing people all over the planet. Some of them are fighting back. In much of the world they are freedom fighters. Here in the West we call them terrorists because it's much easier to demonize an enemy with a nasty name.

How many of us asked our government to get involved in the coup in Haiti, or combat in Afghanistan? Ask yourself; ask your neighbor; take a poll. Chances are pretty good nobody did. So why did we invade Haiti in 2004? Why did we put our troops in a combat role in Afghanistan? If we were truly bringing them a better way of life then there would be no cause for them to hate us or to want to bomb us. That many of them do hate us should tell us we are doing something terribly wrong. That many might be our own citizens should tell us how desperate the situation of their relatives in the other country must be to arouse such fanatical sympathy. Do they "hate freedom"? Quite the opposite I'd say. They hate oppression, and so should we.

If we truly want to end terrorism in Canada, we should divorce Canada from any participation in The US wars of aggression. Indeed we should be standing against such wars. We should be championing liberty by having it. I would much rather see us do that as a means of ending terrorism in Canada than see us turn into an Orwellian police state.

Just how much are we willing to pay for "safety"? I contend that we've paid far too much already.
[/quote:a49df]

http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/ ... 3030733463

[Eight Ace]

[quote="the appropriately named Old Poop":bb775]If anyone doubts that were already a surveillance society, I need only point out that the people arrested were probably under surveillance for some time. If they are homegrown terrorists, then I'll bet dollars to doughnuts they had their right to privacy violated long before there was any probable cause. I find that MUCH scarier than the bombs they allegedly had.[/quote:bb775]
ohh puhleese.. rolleyes:

[1080jibber]

[quote="Eight Ace":9d0d3][quote="the appropriately named Old Poop":9d0d3]If anyone doubts that were already a surveillance society, I need only point out that the people arrested were probably under surveillance for some time. If they are homegrown terrorists, then I'll bet dollars to doughnuts they had their right to privacy violated long before there was any probable cause. I find that MUCH scarier than the bombs they allegedly had.[/quote:9d0d3]
ohh puhleese.. rolleyes:[/quote:9d0d3]the only scarey thing from this terrorist bust is there lawyers

i hope our government doesnt go easy on these guys, hell, lets ship them to that camp you americans have in cuba

[Eight Ace]

[quote="the appropriately named Old Poop":394b3]In much of the world they are freedom fighters.

Here in the West we call them terrorists because it's much easier to demonize an enemy with a nasty name.[/quote:394b3]
actually I'm now siding with ninty, machette and old poop cool:

.... if we in teh west have resorted 2 nasty name-calling then I myself will behead plus benut Bush! cuss:







"I really thought there was a good chance we wouldn't get hit, that nobody would care enough to come after us,"
said a former member of parliament, David McCombe. "But when people from within start attacking, people
that went to our schools and should share our values, then I suppose no one is immune."

[url=http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/canadians-say-they-have-foiled-bomb-attacks/2006/06/04/1149359612984.html:394b3]article[/url:394b3]

[ninty]

It's hard for me to buy into this situation for a number of reasons.

First of all we have the cry wolf situation. TV, papers, movies, politicians etc: Terrorism! Terrorism! Terrorism!

2) More specifically, these terrorists were set up. The police sold the materials to them leading me to believe they were more or less encouraged to do what they did.

3) Items shown by the police were also set up. There was a bag of fertilizer as a piece of evidence, the problem being that the fertilizer was not from the terrorists. It was put there to show to the media by the police however, they failed to inform anyone that what they were seeing was not actually from the terrorists. This is an elaborate PR stunt. Those images are placed in people’s heads, and they think "holy shit".

4) The police also said that the internet was a vital part in capturing the suspects. This paves the way for increased monitoring and regulation of the internet. And if you don't think governments or companies would want to monitor the internet, you might want to think again.

The most disturbing thing I saw was when I was browsing http://www.calgarysun.com

On the front page of the paper it says "Be on Guard" in huge type further increasing the propaganda.

And obviously it worked because if you look at the poll on the page:

Would you be willing to give up some of your civil liberties in the interest of fighting terrorism in Canada?

Yes 54%
No 46%

We also see the result of this. Mosques in Toronto being vandalized and middle eastern people being abused verbally. People become suspicious of each other and are encouraged to guard against terrorism in their daily lives.

I see this as a convenient ploy to guild the voting public to secure Mr. Harpers majority. It's the same technique used by Bush, Howard and Blair. It's nothing new. There will be an election in Canada soon, as Harper has already stated, and he wants the citizens of this country to ask him to protect them from all the bad things out there. And it will work.

[Machette]

Fucking "Sun" papers. But it's more than likely that canadians are willingly bending down to give up civil liberties. gg. Also its calgary, 95% of the province are conservatives.

[Coleman]

Originally Posted by ninty

3) Items shown by the police were also set up.

why is that such a big deal when the police coerced the 'terrorists'? You won't like me saying it, but jsut look at the pedophiles and that dateline special...setup by police to sting them. They provided the bait.

[quote:f7c23]Several of the suspects attended the same mosque in a Toronto suburb where a local parliamentarian had complained in the past about the radical views held by some worshippers.[/quote:f7c23]This may not be hard evidence, but why does this seem somewhat important to me?

I'm just happy that this was all stopped before anyone/thing was seriously injured or killed.