[imported_Fluffy_Bunny]

I'm not real sure what to think of this but I know for a fact that some of the things said on here are true, I wonder if all the sources are reliable... Certainly gives a few things to think about.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9497686216

[Coleman]

i will take a look at it tonight when i have free time.

[ninty]

Heh, I actually just watched this yesterday, I am a fan of Alex Jones videos.

Coleman, I can tell you now that you will not like what is said in this video.

Alex Jones professes that 9/11 was an inside job carried out by small elements of the US government.

He's also done documentaries on the Bohemian Grove and the Illuminati. All very interesting and all very scary.

The thing with Alex Jones is that he's very brash and is very loud. The first time I heard him I though he was a raving lunitic. Now, you don't really see him go off in this particular film, however, if you listen to his radio show or some of his other docs or other stuff he's done, if you're just diving into this kind of thing, his tactics and bluntness will most likley shock you and turn you off the subject.

Another thing with him is that he uses stories from the mainstream media to back up what he's saying. He shows article after article backing up his position.

After viewing this last night I said to myself that this was one of his better documentaries. I would recommend showing this to people who are not yet fully aware of what is going on in the world, and this is a pretty good doc that it won't completly freak them out.

After reading that you'd probably think he was left leaning. Jones himself dismisses the left/right scale as a way of dividing people, but if you had to put him into a category he'd definetly be right wing. He's ademently pro gun, anti abortion, pro god, traditional values etc.

After viewing the video myself, fluffy, i can say that I believe and agree with a majority of the topics and evidence provided in the film.

His two websites are:

http://www.infowars.com
and
http://www.prisonplanet.com

Actually, if you remember charlie sheen talking about 9/11, well it was Alex Jones' radio show in which he made the stements on.

PS, you can also find a better vertsion of this film and other jones docs on bit torrent sites. It's also legal to download because he says he wants to spread the word.

[imported_Fluffy_Bunny]

One part he didn't comment on was the death of one of the WMD expert guys in England, Dr Kelly. I was always suspicious when that happened because it was just so appropriate that he should commit suicide right on the eve of war.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3167281.stm

I still can't believe the US Govt would fly planes into the WTC though it's just nuts. But the way that other building fell was certainly suspicious too.

[ninty]

Truth is stranger than fiction.

It is nuts, yes, but the amount of overwhelming evidence to support the hypothesis cannot be ignored.

[Coleman]

I've had enough time to watch the first 28mins. Im going to finish it tomorrow.

[Coleman]

When I saw Cindy Sheehan being used as a source and people supporting her I really thought the documentry went downhill. And yes, they made this before they told the press that they found WMD's. They also interviewed the dimwitts at Crawford ranch and made the impression that everyone of those people are just like 'this individual'.

[Short Hand]

Originally Posted by Coleman

When I saw Cindy Sheehan being used as a source and people supporting her I really thought the documentry went downhill. And yes, they made this before they told the press that they found WMD's. They also interviewed the dimwitts at Crawford ranch and made the impression that everyone of those people are just like 'this individual'.

tHEY NEVER FOUND wmd'S.

[Coleman]

[quote="Short Hand":17d16]

Originally Posted by Coleman

When I saw Cindy Sheehan being used as a source and people supporting her I really thought the documentry went downhill. And yes, they made this before they told the press that they found WMD's. They also interviewed the dimwitts at Crawford ranch and made the impression that everyone of those people are just like 'this individual'.

tHEY NEVER FOUND wmd'S.[/quote:17d16]they never found working nukes. They found weapons that were able to kill thousands at a time. 'Nuff said. This isn't a thread about WMD's. Its about this weird documentary.

[Short Hand]

[quote=Coleman]

Originally Posted by "Short Hand":34b47

tHEY NEVER FOUND wmd'S.

they never found working nukes. They found weapons that were able to kill thousands at a time. 'Nuff said. This isn't a thread about WMD's. Its about this weird documentary.[/quote:34b47]

NO reason to go to war AND KILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE !!!!


Peanuts, that is all they fucking found, pathetic peanuts.

[Coleman]

[quote="Short Hand":44e83][quote=Coleman][quote="Short Hand":44e83][quote=Coleman]When I saw Cindy Sheehan being used as a source and people supporting her I really thought the documentry went downhill. And yes, they made this before they told the press that they found WMD's. They also interviewed the dimwitts at Crawford ranch and made the impression that everyone of those people are just like 'this individual'.[/quote]

tHEY NEVER FOUND wmd'S.[/quote]they never found working nukes. They found weapons that were able to kill thousands at a time. 'Nuff said. This isn't a thread about WMD's. Its about this weird documentary.[/quote:44e83]

NO reason to go to war AND KILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE !!!!


Peanuts, that is all they fucking found, pathetic peanuts.[/quote:44e83]Hey Mr. Caps Lock, it all says it here why I think we went to war: [url="http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1014286"]http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/view ... ?t=1014286[/url] I even included an audio link

[Short Hand]

NO, I just can't beleive you use the mouse size expired cache as a "I told you so" claim. It is nothing.

[Coleman]

[quote="Short Hand":3cc8f]NO, I just can't beleive you use the mouse size expired cache as a "I told you so" claim. It is nothing.[/quote:3cc8f]dude, wtf are you talking about? There were tens of thousands of these

[c312]

ugh, this forum is turning into more of a "Hop on the Bandwagon of Conspiracy" forum than a good political discussion forum.

All I am gonna say is this... Just because this is an alternative to what is a "mainstream" and accepted beleif, does not in any way make it more credible than that mainstream beleif....I think a lot of people behind this sort of crap see the videos and say, "wait a minute check out all that stuff they said, that's crazy, let's not trust the government." Without actually checking into any of this stuff and refusing to accept contrary beleif because believing in these theories makes them feel like they know "the truth" about something and in some mysterious way, that makes them feel enlightened or something, like they are on the "inside" and are privy to something others are not. I see it as people being easily swayed by something that makes them feel like they are special and its really annoying. Maybe I should post a video and see how many people will cite it as a reason for abandoning all trust of the government, you know becuase that makes a ton of sense...


and short, the weapons that were found are only part of what Saddam had and was told to destroy yet could never prove he did...My question is this: Why do you trust Saddam Hussein so much?

[Tripper]

Originally Posted by c312

and short, the weapons that were found are only part of what Saddam had and was told to destroy yet could never prove he did...My question is this: Why do you trust Saddam Hussein so much?

If Saddam DID have these weapons - How come he didn't use them when the U.S was on his doorstep? If he's so untrustworthy and cutthroat, don't you think he would have done something when he knew the jig was up?

He had all that time do something to the U.S between the gulf wars, and he didn't really do anything - I guess that's why people didn't feel threatened enough by him to go to war...
...and if you say "But he's a DICTATOR!" Then just think to yourself how many other oppresive regimes are in power, that the U.S has just ignored. Look at africa.

I could pose you with a similar question: Why do you trust your own government so much?

Don't you think having that much power and money isn't threatening at all?