[geRV]

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/13296/Jac ... -Shooting/

[quote:8ab1e]April 18, 2007

Bill Gates

Microsoft
1 Microsoft Way
Redmond, WA 98052 Via Fax and e-mail

Dear Mr. Gates:

On Monday, April 16, at 3:10 pm, I was a guest, as I often have been in the past, on the Fox News Channel. News anchor Bill Hemmer asked me to profile the Virginia Tech rampage killer. I did so, noting that until that day the worst school massacre in world history was at the hands of Robert Steinhaeuser, who literally trained on the Microsoft on-line, hyper-violent shooter game, Counterstrike. I mentioned your company’s game by name. I explained that the rehearsal for such a massacre is key to being able to pull it off, as efficiently as Cho, whose name we didn’t even know at the time. Cho and Steinhaeuser were able to do what they did the first time because it was not the first time. This is why the military uses this same virtual reality simulation to train soldiers to want to kill and how to kill calmly, as the witnesses of Cho said he did.

Sure enough, last night I was doing a west coast radio interview when the host said to me, "Mr. Thompson, you are right. The Washington Post is reporting right now the following:

‘Several Korean youths who knew Cho Seung Hui from his high school days said he was a fan of violent video games, particularly Counterstrike, a hugely popular online game published by Microsoft, in which players join terrorism or counterterrorism groups and try to shoot each other using all types of guns.’"

I thus went back on the Fox News Channel, and Bill Hemmer and I explained not only that I was right about your game figuring in the Virginia Tech massacre but also that the Washington Post excised the above excerpt from the story this morning. That is yet another story. The bad news for the Post however is that you can still get the excised excerpt at http://www.washingtonpost.com/...AR2...l?hpid=topnews. Thus, the cat is out of the bag, and his paw prints are still on the bag. Is this a great Internet, or what?

As you know, I similalry [sic] went on NBC’s Today Show with the DC Beltway Sniper still unidentified and at-large a few years ago and told Matt Lauer and the nation that the triggerman would most likely be a teen video gamer trained on a sniper video game. The tarot card was a clue, but there were other clues. I was right, as Malvo trained on your Microsoft game, Halo. NBC reported that three months later, and it was part of the criminal trial of Malvo.

Mr. Gates, your company is potentially legally liable the harm done at Virginia Tech. Your game, a killing simulator, according to the news that used to be in the Post, trained him to enjoy killing and how to kill. You knew five years ago that your on-line game, Counterstrike, so clearly figured in the massacre by a student in Erfurt that the event and the game impacted the race for Chancellor in Germany at the time!

Yet, here you are, five years after "Erfurt," still marketing Counterstrike. having done nothing to disable the server(s) for this mass murder simulator, and it looks like "Virginia Tech" is a consequence. There’s more going on in the world than Vista. Just ask the bereaved Virginia Tech families.

Mr. Gates, pull the plug on Counterstrike today, or do we need more dead to convince you? "Virginia Tech" was the 9-11 of school shootings, and it appears Microsoft is in the middle of it, in more ways than one.

Regards, Jack Thompson [/quote:8ab1e]


So apparently counterstrike is a killing simulator oOo: . Never mind the fact that valve own counterstrike and not microsoft. Also it appears that games like counterstrike let killers "train" to kill people. oOo: oOo: oOo: Then again he said that about doom, pointing and clicking a mouse is so scarily similar to being able to use a gun. rolleyes:

[anti]

he got it pretty good when he lost to take two; http://www.thelastboss.com/post.phtml?pk=2660 .

[elstatec]

he is a fucking tool, who makes any link from violent video games seem ignorant as he takes it way over the top and personal

fucking got owned though

http://kotaku.com/gaming/hardball/clip- ... 253501.php

[elstatec]

[quote="jack Thompson":cd150]I have been praying, literally, that Take-Two and its lawyers would do something so stupid, so arrogant, so dumb, even dumber than what they have to date done, that such a misstep would enable me to destroy Take-Two.[/quote:cd150]


stupid:

[Mr.Buttocks]

If this Jack Thompson fellow comes out with any more statements like this, I'm pretty sure geRV is going to lose it and shoot up a school.

[Mr.Buttocks]

Does anyone remember Nyck's "Gerv fires a gun" or "Gerv fires a glock" thread from a couple of years ago? I think that post was a sign of things to come.

[geRV]

Fires a glock? I remember a picture from a few years back of me aiming down one but ive never recorded myself firing it.

[Mr.Buttocks]

You weren't in it. It was a video of a guy out in a field firing a pistol of some kind.

[geRV]

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":238bd]You weren't in it. It was a video of a guy out in a field firing a pistol of some kind.[/quote:238bd]

Oh, thought you were saying ive posted vids of me firing one. eek:

[Douchetallica]

I support Jack Thompson and all of his works.

I heard he's doing God's work. As a matter of fact this is his home:
[img]http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1664/2hpod9jut6.jpg[/img]

[Chronic Diarrhea]

He should just write back with, "Uh....we don't have any affiliation with CS or CSS. GTFO."

I mean, shouldn't you do some homework before you accuse a company? Even if CS belonged to Microsoft, there's no way in Hell it trains you in any way to effectively carry out the steps necessary to pull something like VT off. I'm pretty sure you can't strafe jump around a corner and headshot somebody 30 meters away in real life.

[Douchetallica]

It trains you to have the mentality to carry out an execution/massacre.
I think that's what he's trying to say.

[geRV]

Originally Posted by Sparks

It trains you to have the mentality to carry out an execution/massacre.
I think that's what he's trying to say.

Well if thats what he's trying to say he's still fulla shit.

[Chronic Diarrhea]

Originally Posted by geRV

Well if thats what he's trying to say he's still fulla shit.

Yep. Like said before, hating civilization as a whole for 10 years will put you in the mentality to kill without remorse. Being a soldier in war, and gaining experience gives you the mentality to kill without remorse (for some soldiers the 1st time is easy though). Those are the ways your mind becomes adapt to the view of dismembered limbs, blood, and death, and it can't be achieved though playing an online video game, no matter how realistic the graphics are. You don't kill anybody in any FPS online game and think, "I just killed a human being." You think, "Hell yeah I just moved up the scoreboard suk ma wang BITCH!" Playing online FPS games is no different than playing a sports game via XBOX Live. You play it to win, and to be recognized as a good player, not to fuel your angst for human life.

[Douchetallica]

Well, Jack does bring up a valid point on the army using game simulators to train soldiers. Game simulators are used too for some airplane instruction courses as well as driver ed schools. I guess sports games can be used as training simulators too.

Neither of those systems train you how to fly, drive, or play basketball, they just train you in how to be in that state of mind and have the mentality of knowing how to react/execute.

I remember taking my drivers ed course and we used a simulator for a while, it wasn't to teach us how to drive, but how to feel comfortable when other cars are around us and prepare us on how to react and think about what to do.

The whole killing without remorse is part due to emotional state (mental illness, frustration, being picked on, family/relationship problems, etc...).