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Default 10-27-2002, 12:11 AM

The new M16s are very reliable, about as reliable as the AK. Its such a more beautifully crafted and sleeker looking weapon.


  
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Default 10-27-2002, 12:41 AM

yah but it uses less force for the firing pin.

also check out the c-7. its canada's version of the m16 but its lighter
  
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Default 10-27-2002, 01:18 PM

How light is it? Is it about 6 lbs? cause the M16 is 6 lbs


  
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Default 10-27-2002, 01:44 PM

[quote="CSF_Jaizen":2ab44]id rather an AK over an M16 any day. If im out in harsh weather i dont want my weapon crapping out on me.[/quote:2ab44]

bah, you think m16 has problems? how do you think us Brits feel with the piece of shit SA-80!!
  
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Default 10-27-2002, 01:48 PM

SAS are now using the c-7 carbine instead of M4; I've held one, and it is the sweetest rifle I've ever seen, everything about it is beautiful!
  
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Default 10-27-2002, 02:01 PM

http://www.diemaco.com/

Maker of the C7 Rifle.
  
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[img]http://www.diemaco.com/images/sal-sfsw.gif[/img] ed: What I'd give for this pig.
  
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Default 10-27-2002, 02:48 PM

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id rather an AK over an M16 any day. If im out in harsh weather i dont want my weapon crapping out on me.
bah, you think m16 has problems? how do you think us Brits feel with the piece of shit SA-80!![/quote:9ab16]

Yeah, it is shit, I heard they british military might be reverting back to the FN FAL, or an m-16 type rifle.
  
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Default 10-27-2002, 02:57 PM

I just want to walk up to Tony Blair and say: "you stupid fuckhead!!! ditch the sa-80 and buy the fucking m16!!!!"

sa-80 problems (just a few):

pistol grip comes off under stress
jams very frequently
susat falls off and breaks
low range and rpm compared to m16

Also: British boots MELT in desert conditions!!! MELT FFS!!!!
Pants are damaged easily (I fell on concrete and they got a huge hole in them)
Helmet isn't kevlar, it's nylon and is no way as powerful as kevlar helmets
Klansman radio system sucks

The only good thing about our army atm is the training

By the way you know I said I wanted to join reserve SAS, well it's not as hard as I thought, I thought you had to have past reserve or reg service, but:

http://www.stuff.themutual.net/taselect.htm
  
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Default 10-27-2002, 03:06 PM

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Also: British boots MELT in desert conditions!!! MELT FFS!!!!
At least your boots don't look like this:

[img]http://cdnarmy.ca/album/General/CADPAT_Boots.jpg[/img]

Those are the new CADPAT boots. I don't know if they'll be issued, but the new CADPAT uniforms have been:

[img]http://www.mpmuseum.org/securuniform/cadpat.jpg[/img]
  
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Default 10-27-2002, 03:08 PM

its...SEAWEED MAN!!!!
  
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Default 10-27-2002, 03:13 PM

Lol.

This is seaweed man:

[img]http://cdnarmy.ca/album/Training/9001.jpg[/img]
CADPAT Boats and Weapons. Kinda funny, but kinda cool. I don't know if i'd like the CAADPAT weapon however. Black is cool.


The advantages of the new CADPAT uniforms are supposed to be immense. We own the pattent to it also, so we can sell it for lots of money. evil:

[quote:7aad1]Canadian Disruptive Pattern (CADPATTM) Uniform

CLS BG-02.001 04 February, 2002

The new Canadian Disruptive Pattern ( CADPATTM) uniform is rapidly becoming part of the Canadian Army's identity and puts Canadian soldiers well ahead of most allies in camouflage survivability. The CADPATTM uniform (pants and shirt) will be issued based on operational need in two distinct variations: Temperate Woodland (TW) and Arid Regions (AR). CADPATTM is a computer generated pattern incorporating sophisticated Near Infrared protection designed to conceal soldiers from image intensification devices (night vision). CADPATTM (TW) is comprised of four specific colours of light green, dark green, brown and black and was first introduced in 1997/98 on the helmet cover for the new helmet then coming into service. At the same time, the pattern was also introduced on a new Soldier's Individual Camouflage Net.

Concurrent with the trials of CADPATTM (TW), work was carried out to identify a uniform for operations in desert, near desert, and savannah environmental conditions. This three-colour pattern, known as CADPATTM Arid Regions (AR), incorporates three different colours of brown. The CADPATTM design for Arid Regions has been approved and the transfer of this digital technology is ongoing to the textiles industry. Canadian industry will follow the general process that was undertaken with the Temperate Woodland pattern to select the appropriate inks and commence test production runs. Once DND has accepted the results then contracts will be put in place for garments for field soldiers.

Before being approved, all items undergo extensive field testing by soldiers. Specifically, these trials confirmed that the technologies involved had been effectively moved from the research and development laboratory to industry for mass production. It is important to note, however, that although extensive trials were conducted to determine the appropriate design and colour of CADPATTM, soldiers do not rely on CADPAT alone for their protection. All soldiers learn to use every means available to camouflage and conceal themselves in different environments.

DELIVERY TIMELINES:

CADPATTM (TW) has been issued to approximately 1/3 of Army soldiers as of Jan 02

Regular and Reserve Army units are expected to be fully converted to CADPAT TM (TW) by the end of 2002. A separate program has begun to convert the Army combat clothing outwear (Gortex TM jackets and pants), which will see first issues occurring in late 2002 / early 2003.

The CADPAT TM (TW) uniform was first worn in an operational theatre in September 2001 in Bosnia-Herzegovina on Operation Palladium Rotation 09 and all subsequent rotations to this theatre of operations will wear CADPATTM (TW).

In light of the deployment of the Immediate Reaction Force (Land) (IRF (L)) to Afghanistan, the CADPATTM (AR) project was expedited with the intent that it will be issued to soldiers in summer 2002.
The patterns and technical data are patent and copyright protected. Also note that the Department of National Defence has acquired the trademark for CADPATTM. A number of Canadian companies have been successful in meeting the rigorous technical specifications for CADPATTM on specific textiles using both Canadian and overseas printing capabilities. The Department of National Defence closely controls CADPAT with all companies agreeing to non-disclosure stipulations for third parties and close control of swatches.

The Army transition to the next generation of soldier operational clothing and equipment has been focussed on the "Clothe the Soldier Project." The Project, in existence since 1995 and in delivery of various items since 1997, will provide state-of-the-art headwear, handwear, underwear, footwear, and cold weather clothing. It will also provide new Personal Ballistic Protection items and a Load Carriage System. All of this clothing and equipment is designed to work as an overall compatible system to better protect our soldiers. Designed with leading-edge technology, the clothing will greatly enhance operational effectiveness and protect soldiers in all weather conditions.

For more information on The Clothe the Soldier Project visit our website at http://www.army.forces.ca/ [/quote:7aad1]
  
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Default 10-27-2002, 03:15 PM

Sounds good, but how can your military afford these new ideas when they are always cutting the budget?
  
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Default 10-27-2002, 03:16 PM

I have no idea. eek:
Well I do sort of. Its a program called clothe the soldier. Each program gets certain amount of money or raises money I suppose.

This is the site:
http://www.army.dnd.ca/lf/equip/hab/index_e.asp

Heres a good CADPAT site:

http://www.mpmuseum.org/cadpat.html
  
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Default 10-27-2002, 03:20 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":42a0b]its...SEAWEED MAN!!!![/quote:42a0b]
I dunno why, but i burst out laughing upon reading that......
  
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