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				04-16-2003, 06:55 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		[quote="Old Reliable":e61d1]yeah I view potheads as the scum of the earth[/quote:e61d1]ha, i actually agree with you 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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				04-16-2003, 07:00 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		"yeah I view potheads as the scum of the earth"  
 
Wow, see I tend to view people like rapists and pedophiles as "the scum of the earth." I dont see why some people feel the need to hate people who smoke weed, we arent hurting anyone besides ourselves and I havent heard of any serious crime coming out of smoking, unless you count eating excessive amounts of food as a crime. Honestly Old, that statement makes you look like a complete idiot. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				"yeah I view potheads as the scum of the earth"  
 
Wow, see I tend to view people like rapists and pedophiles as "the scum of the earth." I dont see why some people feel the need to hate people who smoke weed, we arent hurting anyone besides ourselves and I havent heard of any serious crime coming out of smoking, unless you count eating excessive amounts of food as a crime. Honestly Old, that statement makes you look like a complete idiot. 
			
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 so does holding weed in your hand, lol  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				04-16-2003, 07:06 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		[quote="Old Reliable":ec3da] 
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					Originally Posted by Schalldampfer
					
				 
				"yeah I view potheads as the scum of the earth"  
 
Wow, see I tend to view people like rapists and pedophiles as "the scum of the earth." I dont see why some people feel the need to hate people who smoke weed, we arent hurting anyone besides ourselves and I havent heard of any serious crime coming out of smoking, unless you count eating excessive amounts of food as a crime. Honestly Old, that statement makes you look like a complete idiot. 
			
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 so does holding weed in your hand, lol[/quote:ec3da]NEIN!!!!!  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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				04-16-2003, 07:09 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		LOCK! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				04-16-2003, 07:18 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		sorry man I have no respect for people who abuse things or depend on drugs to live.  for me it is a personal thing 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				04-16-2003, 07:23 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		
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					Originally Posted by Schalldampfer
					
				 
				"yeah I view potheads as the scum of the earth"  
 
Wow, see I tend to view people like rapists and pedophiles as "the scum of the earth." I dont see why some people feel the need to hate people who smoke weed, we arent hurting anyone besides ourselves and I havent heard of any serious crime coming out of smoking, unless you count eating excessive amounts of food as a crime. Honestly Old, that statement makes you look like a complete idiot. 
			
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 YOU are a complete idiot.  People that get "buzzes" from weed do stuff that they wouldn't normally do.  I don't want to say it's comparable to being drunk, because it's not from what i hear.
 
[quote:1a439]March 29, 2002  
To: Prevention and Law Enforcement
 
Marijuana and Cardiovascular death in young adults  
An Associated Press story in March of 2000, reported on the findings of Dr. Murray Mittleman of the Harvard School of Public Health and Boston's Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center that smoking "Marijuana Raises Heart Risks." The study on which this was based was also published in July of 2001 in the medical journal Circulation Magazine and reported by ABCNews.com as "Pot Boosts Heart Attack Risk." The proponents of pot smoking and medical excuse marijuana were not happy. They demanded to know who asked for the study, who funded the study, and insisted that the methodology was flawed and that the researcher was biased.
 
Now, a report in Forensic Science International, by researchers Bachs & Mørland, of the National Institute of Forensic Toxicology in Oslo, Norway, report on six cases of "cardiovascular death in young adults" where THC and no other drugs, were reported in postmortem blood samples. Although only these six cases are detailed in the report, the authors reference several other cases of cardiovascular incidents related to cannabis use.
 
None of the research done on cannabis to date has shown it to be benign. It should be noted that autopsies are not always done following death, and that because of patient confidentiality laws deaths caused by illicit substances are typically not made public. Therefore, it is likely that there have been far more cardiovascular deaths caused by marijuana than have been reported to date. With these data, acute cardiac deaths from marijuana can not longer be denied.
 
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 I know that you can find many websites, documents, etc on the good parts of weed.  I don't care how good they are if they cause a slight lethargic response/buzz that makes you act unnormally.  If the use of weed causes deaths indirectly, then i hate it.  END OF STORY.  You won't change my mind on it....i just do not like weed.  According to law (US) it is illegal and i will abide by the law-even if i do think it is unjust (most circumstances) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			 
            
                
            
				 
			 
		
		
		
		
	
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				04-16-2003, 07:53 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		I respect your opinion Garry, at least you gave reasons for hating it. Being "high" is not comparable to being drunk in any way, shape, or form. I nor have any of my friends done things they normally wouldnt do while under the influence of marijuana, unlike when people get hammered. Dont believe the DARE and Anti Drug bullshit commercials, they dont show realistic situations at all. If I smoke a bowl or something I'm not going to try to rape a girl at a party or shoot my friend.  
 
BTW thanks for the article but I am already well aware of the risks of using marijuana. I could produce a similar article showing the negative effects of using alcohol and tobacco products but in that case it doesnt really matter because those substances are legal yet do just as much damage if not more to our society. If you are going to have marijuana illegal then outlaw those drugs as well. Then again that would never happen givin the fact tobacco and alcohol corporations have huge influence in Washington and have many politicians in their pockets. 
 
@Old- I do not rely upon or abuse any drugs, I do them occasionally and can quit at any time I please. In fact I havent smoked for at least a week and do not feel the need to go smoke. I would like to but I'm not "feening" out to do it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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BTW thanks for the article but I am already well aware of the risks of using marijuana. I could produce a similar article showing the negative effects of using alcohol and tobacco products but in that case it doesnt really matter because those substances are legal yet do just as much damage if not more to our society. 
			
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 well, thanks for listening....most people don't listen to my response.  I thank you for that.  In refrence to cigarrettes and alcohol, i am against those too.  I'm not saying this just to sound like a goodie-gooide.  I believe that those uses are basically self-destruction not only on the physical aspect but the social--family members and friends.  I also stated that yes, there WILL be countless articles on the positive effects on the body.  Tobacco and alcohol go in the same idea--there are more deaths from alcohol and tobacco-related activities or what have you.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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				04-16-2003, 08:16 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Lol........This is the funniest thread ever.  Instead of a war on poverty, they have a war on Drugs so the Police can bother me. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				04-16-2003, 08:25 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Its ironic for me to hate drug users, as i myself have sadly experimented.  
We had a pretty messed up night on LSD once, we mixed it in ith some yoghurt we were eating. it did nothing so we added more and more, then it hit us at once. 
We were happy as hell, but then my friend got into a bad fight with some guy, my friend kicked him and the guy fell to the ground. then my friend started running away screaming at me to get it away from him. 
 
I was like, what the hell you on about?  
 
He said the guys head fell off when he kicked him and was chasing after him. 
 
it was seriously messed up and freaky. we havent touched a thing after that. 
 
I was 17 at the time. now when i see kids like 13, smoking weed as its "cool". i  hake:  my head. (and hope it doesnt fall off and chase me) 
Drugs like that are bad. period.  
only time i would think it was ok was if it was a pensioner smoking canabise to ease the pain in their bones. . 
but kids - they have no excuse. i had no excuse. i thought it was "cool" but looking back just three years i realise how dumb it is. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				04-16-2003, 08:28 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		At least Acid isn't Trendy, there'd be a lot of weird kids walking around... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				04-16-2003, 08:45 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Yeah, acid literally puts holes in your head  oOo: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				04-16-2003, 08:55 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		You know what else happened on 4/20? 
 
[img]http://www.happinessonline.org/images/_749966_video300.jpg[/img] 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				04-16-2003, 09:00 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		yea theres a whole site on how 420 came to be. your opinion gary is valid but kind of harsh. by your assertion you have just called half the world scum of the earth oOo: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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