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		My dads a total Bush-hater (kinda like all hippie parents - my dad goes on Bush rants in the car while listening to NPR) but says he thinks Colin is an awesome guy. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		The way that the polital process in the US is set up makes it virtually impossible for any moderate (left-wing or right-wing) to get its party's nomination.  That's why you see these candidates at opposite ends of the spectrum, either super liberal or super conservative, consistently. 
 
I believe we'll never see good moderates like John McCain or Colin Powell get nominated to run. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				The way that the polital process in the US is set up makes it virtually impossible for any moderate (left-wing or right-wing) to get its party's nomination.  That's why you see these candidates at opposite ends of the spectrum, either super liberal or super conservative, consistently. 
 
I believe we'll never see good moderates like John McCain or Colin Powell get nominated to run. 
			
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 I'm sorry, but I've never seen an ''uber liberal'' running for any office. The democrars arn't liberals, their just spineless, poll-watching, cowards who run to the middle when the election cycle comes around and don't even have a goal for the future.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		[quote:a4d1e]I'm sorry, but I've never seen an ''uber liberal'' running for any office. The democrars arn't liberals, their just spineless, poll-watching, cowards who run to the middle when the election cycle comes around and don't even have a goal for the future.[/quote:a4d1e] 
 
You must have been born this summer then if you've never seen any uber-liberals run. McGovern, Dukakis, Mondale, and Dean--if you wanted to include Dean--weren't exactly moderate candidates. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				[quote:3de18]I'm sorry, but I've never seen an ''uber liberal'' running for any office. The democrars arn't liberals, their just spineless, poll-watching, cowards who run to the middle when the election cycle comes around and don't even have a goal for the future. 
			
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 You must have been born this summer then if you've never seen any uber-liberals run. McGovern, Dukakis, Mondale, and Dean--if you wanted to include Dean--weren't exactly moderate candidates.[/quote:3de18]
 
LOL, Yeah they are real movers and shakers...  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		[quote:bf2d6]LOL, Yeah they are real movers and shakers...[/quote:bf2d6] 
 
It doesn't matter if they are movers and shakers, you said you've never seen an 'ultra-liberal' candidate run. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		They arn't Liberals. Dean may have said some things awhile back about the Republicans being all white and chistian but for the most part they are silent, and being a Liberal doesn't include being silent. It also doesn't include being scared to call yourself a LIBERAL. 
 
The Democrats are so far from being ultra-liberal it's a joke to even use to the two in the same sentence let alone suggest that there acually are ultra-liberals in government offices. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				 let alone suggest that there acually are ultra-liberals in government offices. 
			
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 You do realise for along time he held a Pro-Life stance, and voted for No Child Left Behind, he also supported the Patriot Act. He doesn't sound like much of an ultra-liberal.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 You do realise for along time he held a Pro-Life stance, and voted for No Child Left Behind, he also supported the Patriot Act. He doesn't sound like much of an ultra-liberal.  
			
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 http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_ ... %20Journal 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		Democrats like that are very much ultra-liberal. I didn't say that Democrats as a whole are ultra-liberal. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				Democrats like that are very much ultra-liberal. I didn't say that Democrats as a whole are ultra-liberal. 
			
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