[Michael]

Not really. Sorry to disappoint.

Anyway, I'm having a hard time training my fucking puppy. He's like, five months old now, and he takes a shit and pisses anywhere he god damn pleases. eek: Now, I normally didn't care, because I wasn't the one cleaning it up, but now I am. So yeah, it's annoying.

I ask to those who've trained their dogs: how do you go about training a puppy to piss and shit in one area, or on newspapers, etc?

[Judas]

i found some awesome tips on my local vets website. you might wanna try searching some of you local ones ...


[code:5e3b1]Before the Fact

If you are sitting at a table, minding your own business, and all of a sudden you notice your puppy sniffing the ground, circling, or (oh, no!) beginning to squat - stay cool. Do not suddenly jump up, yell, and charge at the puppy, as it will not comprehend such erratic behavior on your part. Instead, create a diversion, make a sound by banging on the table, or slamming a drawer, or even rattle a “shake can,” if you have one handy, to startle the little critter’s sphincters into contraction. But note: the diversionary noise should not be seen (or rather heard) to come from you. Rather, it should just happen – a sudden rude interruption of what was otherwise to be a wistful moment. If the puppy turns and looks at you, you might even shrug your shoulders as much to say, “Who me?” But, at the same time, make your way over to the mite, pick it up, and physically take it to an appropriate location, whether to strategically-placed newspapers or to the great outdoors.

Caught in the Act

If you enter a room to find your puppy midstream, or mid-bowel movement, once again, stay calm. It’s not a mortal sin, it’s an accident and there’s nothing done that can’t be undone. Again, you might want to make a diversionary noise to attenuate the elimination process and then carry or walk your pup to an appointed, acceptable location so that it can finish what it started. Later, return to the offending spot, clean up the mess with a paper towel or sponge and some water, and then treat the soiled area with a proprietary odor neutralizer. Nothing more, nothing less. Above all, remember not to punish the pup for its indiscreet behavior. It doesn’t know any better. It’s your job to teach the pup, not its responsibility to instinctively know what you want it to do. Punishment will only cause the pup to avoid eliminating in your presence and that will make housebreaking extremely difficult. Anyway, it’s unfair to punish a pup for failing to learn the proper location for elimination when you are the teacher.

After the Fact

If you walk into a room or come home to find an unexpected puddle or pile on the floor, do not immediately set out to catch and punish your puppy. Don’t yell, spank, or rub its nose in it. None of this behavior is appropriate or humane. Punishment of a pup that is caught in the act at the time is bad enough, but punishment after the fact is a disaster and will not be associated by the pup with what it has done. Its “accident” will have occurred minutes or even hours earlier and many other things will have happened in its life since that time. To have you suddenly come ranting toward it, shouting obscenities, and with your hand raised will only confirm, in the puppy’s mind, that you are truly psychotic and not to be trusted. This will increase its anxiety, especially around you, and will likely exacerbate the very problem that you are attempting to resolve (i.e. elimination in the house). The correct response in this situation (though you may be fuming inside) is to coolly, calmly, and collectedly, clean up the mess and neutralize odors as described above. Then think about why the accident may have occurred. Ask yourself how long ago the puppy was last taken outside. Were you asking the impossible – for the puppy to contain itself for longer than it was physically capable? Did you feed the pup and forget to take it outside? Was it transitioning from one behavior to another and you failed to capitalize on the opportunity? Whatever the cause, try and ascertain what it was and do something about it for the future.

Last Tips

Positive punishment, doing something physically to a dog to deter a particular behavior, is never indicated when training puppies or, indeed, adult dogs. This is especially true when it comes to housetraining. The correct approach is to train the pup to do what you want it to do rather than to punish an unwanted behavior. While negative punishment, withholding some desired resource, has a place in obedience training, even this training technique, has no place when trying to housebreak a pup. The only thing that you, the owner, needs to do is to show the pup where you want it to eliminate and reward it richly for eliminating in that location. Simultaneously, deprive the pup of opportunities for inappropriate elimination by being cognizant and ever vigilant. Keep a regular schedule and handle clean up in a matter-of-fact way. Don’t omit to use odor neutralizers when cleaning up messes as the odor of a previous soiling incident will attract the pup back to the same site as surely as a heat-seeking missile finds its source of heat. Odor neutralizers destroy the chemicals that cause the smell, thus completely eliminating this particular incitement for indoor elimination. [/code:5e3b1]

[Paintballr]

When we first got our dog the lady we bought him from told us how to house train him.

If he has a cage or anything at night put him in it to sleep. If he whines or anything just ignore it he will eventually go to sleep. In the morning when he starts to whine again or when the first person wakes up open the cage and pick him up, dont let his feet touch the floor. Take him outside and put him on the grass and stay out there till he goes which usually doesnt take long.

I did that for a while and eventually my dog would just go to the door when he needs to go outside and whine, and we just let him out and he goes. Be sure to give the dog a treat or something if he goes to the bathroom outside.

[Pyro]

that's why you're better off with a cat.

[Scorpion -]M15F1T[-]

Its very easy to do. When the dog does its stuff pick it up firmly take it to
where it did it and in a reasonable tone say no!

Then take it to where you want it to actually take a shit and leave it there.

It will take a little while and a lot of persistence but after a while
it will understand where to shit.

The main thing to do is to reward it when it does it in the right place.

Thank you for you time and BTW change the thread title you got my hopes up.

[Michael]

Originally Posted by Pyro

that's why you're better off with a cat.

Yeah. The cats I had were always clean. But this puppy is adorable, but nasty. He even tried to eat his own shit. oOo: oOo: oOo: Thanks for the tips you guys. biggrin: My neighbor says I should tie him with his leash to a door nob, or something like that, and keep up there until he does his business, then let him loose. I'm not sure if that works, but she says it does.

[Michael]

[quote="Scorpion -]M15F1T[-":5f6dc]Its very easy to do. When the dog does its stuff pick it up firmly take it to
where it did it and in a reasonable tone say no!

Then take it to where you want it to actually take a shit and leave it there.

It will take a little while and a lot of persistence but after a while
it will understand where to shit.

The main thing to do is to reward it when it does it in the right place.

Thank you for you time and BTW change the thread title you got my hopes up.[/quote:5f6dc]We tried the 'No!' bit when getting him to pee on his pad, which did work a bit. I notice he's not very bright, and he listens mainly to my sister, who isn't even here. So, I guess I'm going to have to work extra hard for this to happen.

[Pyro]

Originally Posted by M79

Yeah. The cats I had were always clean. But this puppy is adorable, but nasty. He even tried to eat his own shit. oOo: oOo: oOo: Thanks for the tips you guys. biggrin: My neighbor says I should tie him with his leash to a door nob, or something like that, and keep up there until he does his business, then let him loose. I'm not sure if that works, but she says it does.

I liked the idea of leaving it in a cage and when it wanted to go...pick it up and bring it outside.

I know that we used our cage for the dog when it started...and now it have a choice to go in and out...door never stays shut anymore.

[Michael]

I don't think I'm strong enough to do that. One wimper from him and I give him what he wants. He's spoiled, yeah. loney:

[Unknown_Sniper]

dogs tend to go around the same area all the time. First, lay some papers down so when he does go its easy to clean. second, be sure ot take him for a walk frequently. Puppies have tiny bladders and pee a lot. When you take him outside for his walk give him an area of about 15 feet out from you in a circle and use a key phrase such as "hurry up" until they go, then give them a treat or scratch his head or something. Keep using hurry up and when he gets older he will associate that with "hey dog, hurry the fuck up and piss". It will save you time when you are running late and need him to go quickly.

[Michael]

lol@Hey dog, hurry the fuck up!

Right now he uses pads for his piss, which, he dislikes now for some reason. He shreds them up. And he's terrified to go outside for some reason. I mean, we live ina nice area, it's not like there's killer mutated dogs out there.

[elitecloud]

i feel your pain man, i have a pug, and i'm just freaking too tired to keep trying to train him...GRRR

[[DAS REICH] Blitz]

offtopic: this thread should be about duffy's death as the title states

[Mr.Buttocks]

Try to reason with the dog.

[Michael]

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":a74e2]Try to reason with the dog.[/quote:a74e2]Reason, or bribe? I'm willing to give up five dollars, but no higher.