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Default How many of you ... - 10-06-2002, 09:55 PM

think there are still hundreds of al-quaida operatives are in the US? or they have very little left?
  
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Default 10-06-2002, 10:08 PM

id be more worried about the hundreds of US operatives located around the world killing people, engaging in terrorism, lauching bloody coups against democratically elected governments... theyve killed more.... theyve done more social and economic damage.
  
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Default 10-06-2002, 10:14 PM

Examples?
  
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Default 10-06-2002, 10:20 PM

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id be more worried about the hundreds of US operatives located around the world killing people, engaging in terrorism, lauching bloody coups against democratically elected governments... theyve killed more.... theyve done more social and economic damage.
Upon conclusive studies and countless hours of examining your post, I have come to the conclusion that you sir, are an idiot. hake:
  
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Default 10-06-2002, 10:27 PM

i dont get it.....
you guys do know that the US was the state who originally sponsored both Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, toppled governments and engaged in financing terrorism throughout South America dont you?
  
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Default 10-06-2002, 11:00 PM

[quote="Blitz-krieg":7a39d]Examples?[/quote:7a39d]

well firstly who concerns you more?
a nation that *may* want to develop a nuclear weapon ....or.... one that has hundreds and is the only country who has every used this weapon against civilian populations? +350,000 dead..... puts them 2 towers into perspective dont it?

and this year they have announced that as the most powerful nation in the world and commanding the most ridiculously enormous stockpile of weapons of mass destruction ever assembled.... they now have a "strike first" policy and will act without the approval of the UN.

this is a rogue nation with weapons of mass destruction who has a history of using them.

as for US sponsored terrorism try a search engine once in a while.

some examples from a quick google on
[url="http://www.google.com/search?q=%22US-sponsored+terrorism%22"]http://www.google.com/search?q=%22US-sp ... rrorism%22[/url]

1946 - US opens the School of the Americas... the world's premiere torture and human rights abuses academy.

1951 - US backed coup in Iran. Replacement regime's security force the SAVAK trained by CIA and later credited by Amnesty Intenational as having the worst human rights record on the planet, and that: "the number and variety of torture techniques the CIA had taught SAVAK were beyond belief."

1951- CIA involved in terror campaign against democratically elected Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala. After Arbenz government is overthrown, CIA backed regimes murder more than 100,000 Guatemalans over the next 40 years

1961- CIA recruits 1500 Cuban exiles to invade Cuba and overthrow the Castro regime. The Pay of Pigs invasion would be a disaster, however the CIA would continue with more than two dozen attempts to kill Castro.

1963 - The CIA have South Vietnemese president Ngo Dinh Diem overthrown and assasinated for supporting negotiations with the north. After 20 years of covert war the U.S. turns to direct military invasion, in a war that costs tens of thousands of Vietnemese, Cambodian and U.S. lives

1963- CIA recruits Iraqi Baath Party to assasinate the new leader, Abdul-Karim Kassem. After the coup, the CIA gave the Baath a long list of communists and others to liquidate. During the 1980s the CIA would go on to help provide weapons to both Iraq and Iran in a war that would kill over one million people.

1965- CIA provokes a coup that leads to the overthrow of Indonesian leader Sukarno, who is replaced by General Suharto. In the following weeks between 500,000 and one million people are murdered by death squads using lists provided by US State Department.

1973- After interfering in Chilean elections in 1958 and 1964, the CIA begins a campaign of sabotage and terror after leftist Salvadore Allende is elected president in 1970. In 1973 , a CIA supported coup overthrew and assassinated Allende and installed fascist General Pinochet, resulting in thousands of murders over the next two decades. This year in France, former U.S. secretary of state, Henry Kissinger was served a (mostly symbolic) warrant for arrest as a war criminal for his role in the coup.

1979- After Nicaraguan dictator Samosa is overthrown in 1979, the CIA t National Guard into death squads known as the Contras. The Contras are used to terrorize rural Nicaragua while the US military blockades Nicaragua's harbours with mines. In 1989, after 10,000 deaths, the US is successful in ousting the Sandanista government.

1989- US invades Panama to overthrow and 'arrest' Manuel Noriega, who has been on the CIA payroll since 1966 and supported through decades of drug running, political assassination and corrupt elections. After the invasion, which included the fire bombing of an entire urban ghetto, human rights observers uncover mass graves and estimate that over 4,000 died during the invasion.

1991- US and allies (mostly Britain) invade Iraq after Sadam Hussein invades Kuwait. 200,000 Iraqis are killed, including over 400 civilians killed by two U.S. missiles in the Al-Amerya air shelter. Over the next 10 years another 400 tons of explosives will be dropped on Iraq killing another 300 civilians, and hundreds of thousands more starved through U.S. imposed sanctions. The U.S. forces Saudi Arabia to allow thousands of U.S. military to remain indefinetely within its boarders.

1998- Al Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum, Sudan is bombed without warning by 13 U.S. cruise missiles killing a janitor. The attack deprives Sudan of desperately needed medical drugs and potentially killing tens of thousands of people. The CIA later admits that information linking the plant to Osama bin Laden was probably 'incorrect'.

Al Quaeda couldnt hope to come anywhere near these numbers.
  
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[quote="Chronic Diarrhea":64d99]
Upon conclusive studies and countless hours of examining your post, I have come to the conclusion that you sir, are an idiot. hake:[/quote:64d99]

you'll get used to him after awhile
  
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Default 10-06-2002, 11:22 PM

yeah I am used to him... lol. BTW remix I don't think you're an idiot, so don't get pissed.
  
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Default 10-06-2002, 11:27 PM

[quote="Chronic Diarrhea":ce4dd]yeah I am used to him... lol. BTW remix I don't think you're an idiot, so don't get pissed.[/quote:ce4dd]

yeah i know man... im just a malicious prick who likes equality.
  
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Default 10-06-2002, 11:41 PM

equality within the human race isn't possible so we might as well kill eachother over the class system biggrin:
  
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Default 10-07-2002, 12:22 AM

that would mean I die first!
  
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Default 10-07-2002, 12:41 AM

durring the cold war there was about 20 kgb operatives in the US acting as spys, i would doubt there would be more than 20 taliban in the US now.
  
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Default 10-07-2002, 02:34 AM

LONG LIVE THE ARISTOCRACY!
  
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Default 10-07-2002, 04:30 AM

I totally agree with r3mix... but then again, what's new ?

Here's a quote for all of you n00bz to live by:

[quote:f0d06]Don't forget that EVERYTHING the Government and the media tells
you is the complete truth. That will make it easier to live in a black and
white dreamworld. LOL[/quote:f0d06]
  
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Default 10-07-2002, 05:51 AM

dreamworlds are nice, but if i'm going to bang catherine bell in my dreams color would be nice too.
  
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