Why does spearhead multi get such a bum rap?

geRV · **Why does spearhead multi get such a bum rap? -** 01-08-2003, 05:54 AM

I really don't know why people love moh so much while spearhead gets talked about like a disowned child. Spearhead bring some nice additions into the game whilst making older weapons a lot better.

Pistols are now lethal and can actually be relied on in tight spots, in moh pistols were a last resort to say the last as you had more chance beating someone to death with it than actually killing them with rounds.

Submachineguns are now deserving of the name, you can get some pretty decent kills racked up with them now as they seemingly don't lose their accuracey after 2 feet unlike in moh. The smg's are now a match for the mg's at around medium range.

Cooking grenades is a godsend especially if you're being chased by 1 or more enemies. Also brings some new tactics into play.

People seem to complain about the movement speed, imo the original moh movement speed was always far too slow anyway. Play moh and what do you see? you see a guy with a rifle,a few nades and a pistol moving around the map like some kind of 90 year old amputee with arthritis. I don't see any gear pack on his back so why the hells he moving so slow to begin with? At least now you can move about the map with relative speed instead of taking almost 5 minutes to hobble 30 feet and back. Possibly a sprint button would have been a better idea but the movement was always comperable to a tortoise anyway.

Sure it has its bugs but most likely these will be eradicated in the forthcoming spearhead patch (hopefully). Im more or less playing it exclusively now since the better weapons and movement speed make for a more solid gameplay experiance. I don't have to worry as mcuh about tottering around the map and being sniper fodder because now i know only the good snipers will hit me since im moving a bit faster anyway.

Akuma · 01-08-2003, 06:40 AM

Feel free to stop by AAN.

And yes I agree, people conplain too much.

Xorcist [USA] · 01-08-2003, 08:12 AM

i uninstalled mine so i dont have to complain about it anymore. but for a short reply, the player movements are fucked, the lack of any objective maps is fucked, and the idea to remove 2015 as developers is fucked.

01-08-2003, 08:17 AM

here we go again

wanna know why i complain?

the pistols may be lethal which is good, but revolvers have better accuracy than smgs

i can open a door while reloading a stg with 2 hands, but i can't open a door while cooking a grenade with 1

it's more of a disorganized madness than mohaa

you seemingly don't have to lead your target at all anymore

the goddamn voices

the g43 is a load of crap and no server admins seem to want the kar back because those ol ruskees would be the only ones with a semi auto rifle. well good for them, IT SUCKS!

rockets are even more n00bified than mohaa. sure you can't use them while running like mohaa but they do an insane amount of splash damage. how many new guys do you see running while shooting in the first place?

the range on the FIXED mortars is less than the damn rifle grenades

it's made by ea

geRV · 01-08-2003, 08:26 AM

I duuno about the greande and door thing, im almost sure i opened a door while cooking a grenade last night.

I wouldn't say pistols have better accuracey than smg's. Maybe if its fired in a slow rate yes becuse an smg would normally be fired in burst, if you fire in bursts the first round is gonna be accurate while the rest are gonna be off seeing as the recoil of the first round would take it off target a bit. Pistols dont have as much recoil due to the fact theyre not automatics so it makes sense theyre more accurate in some ways.

I stil have to lead targets a bit while sniping. Rifles sem to be a bit more forgiving.

I agree with the mortars though, but if they did have a massive range then spawns could literally be raped by continued mortar fire since theres no limit on their ammo.

geRV · 01-08-2003, 08:40 AM

Edit: hmm ya can;t open a door cooking a nade off

Bleed_4_Me · 01-08-2003, 09:51 AM

Gerard,
You also forgot to mention that the skins got a nice upgrade with Spearhead!

Another big gripe about MOHAA was also resolved: The inclusion of additional allied players/skins not just Manon and Major Grillo!

B4M biggrin:

MPowell1944 · 01-08-2003, 09:55 AM

every game/expansion has its flaws. deal with them or dont play the game. simple.

Bazooka_Joe · 01-08-2003, 10:24 AM

I'm not against the gameplay, I love the weapons, but certian things like:

1) Cheats so open
2) Glitches galore
3) Bad sounds
4) No exciting maps

Really disappoint me.

Zoner · 01-08-2003, 11:06 AM

I love playing SH online. It's not perfect, but what in this world besides beer and Brooke Burke IS perfect?

Likes:

1) Plays smoother than AA did for me...not sure why.
2) Some nice new maps (Malta, Gewitter, Bahnof)
3) That gewhr, erm, gehwr, umm..that nade-rifle! That rawks!

Dislikes:

1) Sound probs with the Lee Enfield and Moisin Nagant
2) Butt Sliding

Zone

Bleed_4_Me · 01-08-2003, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner91

I love playing SH online. It's not perfect, but what in this world besides beer and Brooke Burke IS perfect?

Likes:

1) Plays smoother than AA did for me...not sure why.
2) Some nice new maps (Malta, Gewitter, Bahnof)
3) That gewhr, erm, gehwr, umm..that nade-rifle! That rawks!

Dislikes:

1) Sound probs with the Lee Enfield and Moisin Nagant
2) Butt Sliding

Zone

LOL Zoner,

That Gewehrgrenate rifle is very cool. Too bad that and Malta didn't appear in the full game until the patch. After I got the full version I found myself playing the demo again because I dig that rifle and the Malta map. No worry now since it's in the full game!

BTW. Did you folks see this thread about the upcoming patch:
[url:5d644]http://www.alliedassault.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=153373[/url:5d644]

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Bazooka_Joe · 01-08-2003, 01:23 PM

[quote="Bleed_4_Me":be0f5]BTW. Did you folks see this thread about the upcoming patch:
[url:be0f5]http://www.alliedassault.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=153373[/url:be0f5]

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Let's just hope they can stick to their word. This would greatly improve my feel towards SH if they can keep patches pumping every month/2 months or so.

Magg0t · **:rolleyes: -** 01-08-2003, 01:39 PM

http://www.alliedassault.com/phpBB2/vie ... ht=#336145

said all of this b4....

Bleed_4_Me · **Re: :rolleyes: -** 01-08-2003, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magg0t

http://www.alliedassault.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=336145&highlight=#336145

said all of this b4....

Ahh dang. Gerard forgot to use that search thingy again! cool:

Argon · 01-08-2003, 02:29 PM

Hell Ya man I love SH, I know it has got it's problems, but I think the additional maps, skins and weapons are great. I play it almost exclusively too. I still play AA once or twice a week, but Im sick of stock maps and most people don't DL custom maps (At least the people that don't know about this site). Anyways, hopefully with a new patch the game will get even better.