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Chlling interview with Al Quaeda Big-wig -
02-17-2003, 10:55 PM
I dunno if this is valid or not. It's most likely bollocks made up by a militant liberal from Arkansas.
The following interview was conducted by a reporter for the Al-Jazeera
> > network with the third-in-command of the Al Queda organization, Mr.
> > Mohammed Al-Asuquf. Al-Asuquf's background is impressive; a doctorate in
> > physics and masters in international economics.
> >
> > In the interview, he talks of Al Queda's plans with total detachment,
> > with deep knowledge and an unshakeable commitment to his cause. This
> > interview was sent to Abel-Bari Atwan, chief editor of Al Quds, an
> > Arabic-language newspaper published in London, but was never printed,
> > due to its highly revealing [inflammatory?] contents.
> >
> > A copy of the interview came to Foz-do-Iguacu, and was translated into
> > Portuguese by a university professor in the city's Arab community. This
> > is probably the only existing version of this interview not in Arabic.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: What is the objective of the Al Queda network?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: To destroy the Great Satan, that is, the United States and
> > Israel.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Why?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: The USA over the past 60 years has been impregnating
> > [infecting] the world with its arrogance, greed and malfeasance. It is
> > the incarnation of all that is evil. The people of this planet don't
> > deserve this torture.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Isn't this view somewhat one-sided?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: No; one only has to observe recent events. The disrespect of
> > the Kyoto treaty; the case of the Permanent Court of International
> > Justice, their inaction with regards to our Palestinian brothers; the
> > financial greed and absurd speculations in Third World countries; the
> > complete indifference to other oppressed people and countless other
> > situations which all of the world's leaders well know. And on top of all
> > that, the Bush doctrine of "shoot first and ask questions later." This
> > is an unacceptable abuse and will therefore have very grave
> > consequences.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: But the isn't the development and influence of America the
> > fruit of its own competence?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: Competence in extortion, competence in subjugation,
> > competence in lying. After the Second World War, the USA was the only
> > industrialized country with its manufacturing infrastructure intact.
> > Loaning money like a good loan shark, it ended up becoming a very rich
> > and powerful country; however, its greed remained undiminished.
> > Today,Americans live like Maharajas [King], wasting more than any other
> > people, spending more than 880 billion per year just on gambling.
> > They've lost any notion of spiritualityand live in constant sin. With
> > each passing day the USA demonstrates that it doesn't know how to live
> > with other peoples; for this, it deserves destruction.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Wouldn't it be easier to simply assassinate President George
> > Bush?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: In the first place, it would do no good, other than turning
> > him into a martyr. When you face a powerful enemy, the best strategy is
> > not to kill him, but to make him lose his leadership due to his
> > incompetence,and let him live to watch this unfold.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Does the Al Queda network have the military capacity to make
> > war on the United States?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: If we analyze history, we will see that all great wars,
> > before they were started, were based on previously established concepts
> > [of war]. But if we observe well, we will see that these concepts and
> > strategies came to nothing, since a new type of war was ultimately
> > waged. An example is theconstruction of the Maginot line by the French
> > before the First World War, which, in reality proved to be completely
> > useless against the invading forces. Aircraft carriers, nuclear
> > submarines, and spy satellites will be useless in the next war.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: American authorities hold more than 1,000 people Suspected
> > of terrorism since September 11th. Won't this compromise Al Queda's
> > plans?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: Of those imprisoned, perhaps 20 to 30 percent belong to Al
> > Queda. Moreover, they are from the second echelon. We have more than 500
> > members of the first echelon and 800 from the second, inside the United
> > States.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: What do you mean by first and second echelons?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: In the first echelon are Al Queda members who have been in
> > the United States for more than 10 years, many married with children.
> > They have detailed knowledge of our plans and are just waiting for a
> > phone call. They are also known as "sleepers." Those of the second
> > echelon have arrived in the last five years and have no idea of our
> > plans.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Are even those who are married, with children, ready to die
> > with their families?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: Yes. All of them are ready to die. Long live September 11th..
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: What was September 11th to Al Queda's overall plans?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: As a general step, it was just the beginning. It was a way of
> > calling the world's attention to what is still to come.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: How many members does Al Queda have?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: In the first echelon, about 5,000; in the second, about
> > 20,000, all over the world.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: In the detention camp at Guantanamo, are there any Members
> > of the first echelon?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: No, in fact, many of those there are not even Al Queda
> > members.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: How does Al Queda intend to destroy the most powerful nation
> > in history?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: It's a question of logistics. Using its own poison, that is,
> > attacking the heart of what they consider the most important thing in
> > the
> > world: money.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: How so?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: The American economy is an economy of false appearances.There
> > is no real economic ballast to the American economy. The American GDP of
> > is something around 810 trillion, of which just 1 percent represents
> > agriculture, and just 24 percent represents industry. Therefore, 75
> > percent of the American GDP is service and most of this is financial
> > speculation. For those who understand economics, and it appears that the
> > American Secretary of the Treasury, Paul O'Neil, doesn't or doesn't see
> > it, it's enough to say that the USA acts like a huge "dot-com," and
> > dollars, strictly speaking, are its shares.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Can you explain that?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: The value of a company's shares is directly proportional to
> > the profitability of the enterprise. When a business is just a service
> > provider and doesn't produce any durable goods, the value of its shares
> > depends on its credibility. Which is to say that if the credibility of
> > the USA were shaken, its shares (the dollar)would fall with incredible
> > rapidity and the entire American economy would begin to collapse.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: How can you be so sure of this?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: On a smaller scale, it's exactly what large financial groups
> > do to the countries of the third world to reap profits in one month that
> > Swiss banks couldn't get in four or five years.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: So how will Al Queda shock the American economy to this
> > point?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: By provoking a deficit of between 850 and 870 trillion
> > dollars, the equivalent of the United States'GDP for five to seven
> > years.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: How will this be done?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: With the destruction of the seven largest American cities,
> > along with other measures.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: By what means will this be done?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: Using atomic bombs.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: With all of the security in the USA, how, hypothetically,
> > will these bombs be smuggled onto American soil?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: They won't be smuggled in, they're already there.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: What are you saying?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: There are already seven nuclear devices on American soil
> > which were put in place before September 11th and are ready to be
> > detonated.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: How did they get in to the USA?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: Before September 11, American security was a fiasco, and even
> > after, were it necessary, we could manage to smuggle bombs into the
> > United States. They entered through seaports, as normal cargo.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: How is that possible?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: A nuclear device is no bigger than a refrigerator; therefore,
> > it can be easily camouflaged as one. Millions of cargo containers arrive
> > in seaports each day, and no matter how efficient security is, it's
> > impossible to check, search through and examine each container.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Where did these atomic bombs come from?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: They were purchased on the black market.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: From whom?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: We bought five from the defunct Soviet Union and two more
> > from Pakistan.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: How is it possible to buy an atomic bomb? Isn't there
> > security?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: Before 1989 it was practically impossible, however after the
> > fall of the Berlin Wall, the Russian army began a process of self
> > destruction, and some high generals began to lose their privileges, and
> > therefore, highly susceptible to corruption. Even General Lebeb, now
> > deceased, and Hans Blix, the head of the arms inspection commission of
> > the United Nations, have stated this, notwithstanding denials by Russian
> > Defense Minister Seguey Ivanov.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: How much does a nuclear bomb cost?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: Somewhere around 820 million.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: How did Al Queda get this money?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: We have numerous sponsors.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Who are they?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: There are a number of countries which support us, and also
> > numerous wealthy individuals.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Are all of these countries Arab?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: No, there are some European countries as well which have an
> > interest in the fall of the USA.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Who are these wealthy individuals?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: People who are also tired of watching the USA suck the wealth
> > out of the rest of the world.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Is Saddam Hussein one of them?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: You could say that he's just one of the collaborators,
> > through Abdul Tawab Mullah Hawaish, his vice-prime minister and the
> > person responsible for Iraq's arms program.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Are these atomic bombs powerful ones?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: The five Russian devices are from the old T-3 missiles, also
> > known as RD-107s, and their potency is something around 100 kilotons
> > each, that is, 5 times as powerful as the Hiroshima bomb. The Pakistani
> > bombs are less powerful, somewhere around 10 kilotons.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Can't the bombs be detected and disarmed by American
> > authorities?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: No, in spite of their age they've undergone modernization and
> > are well hidden. Even if they were found,they have autodetonation
> > provisions should anything get close to them. Even electromagnetic
> > pulses would be incapable of deactivating them.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Don't they emit radiation? Can't they be detected?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: No. They are wrapped in thick leaden cases.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: A suspected Pakistani ship was recently searched and all
> > that was found were lead bars. Does this have anything to do with the
> > bombs?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: Yes, however that lead was just an extra layer, and was not
> > essentially necessary.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: How will the bombs be detonated?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: There are numerous methods, a cell-phone call, radio
> > frequency, seismic shocks or by timer.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Once detonated, how many deaths will be caused by these
> > bombs?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: It depends, since our plans are very malleable.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: So what is the entire plan?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: The beginning will be the detonation of a nuclear device,
> > which will cause the death of between 800 thousand and one million
> > people and create chaos on a scale never seen before. During this chaos,
> > two or three cropsprayers that are now dismantled and stored in
> > granaries [silos?] close to little-used highways in the countryside will
> > take off on suicide missions to spray two or three large American cities
> > with smallpox. That means that once the smallpox has been identified,
> > all airports and seaports will be closed by quarantine. Land borders
> > will likewise be shut down..Not one airplane, ship or vehicle will enter
> > or leave the United States. This will cause total chaos. White House
> > Press secretary Ari Fleischman will be very busy.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: But the American government has guaranteed that within five
> > days it could produce enough smallpox vaccine to inoculate the entire
> > population.
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: There will be simultaneous suicide attacks against the
> > Vaccine production plants.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Which will be the first city?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: The first city will be that in which optimal conditions
> > present themselves, for example, clear skies, and winds of eight
> > miles-per- hour or less in the direction of the country's center so that
> > radioactive dust can contaminate the maximum possible area.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Will this attack annihilate the USA?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: No. But the process will have begun. Who will buy food
> > products from the United States knowing they may have been contaminated
> > by radiation? Who will travel to the United States knowing the
> > possibility of contracting smallpox? Who will continue to invest in
> > American institutions? Just as with the World Trade Center, it will be
> > simply a question of time before the entire economic structure collapses
> > and turns to dust. If our objectives are reached with one bomb and the
> > smallpox, probably we'll save the lives of others, however that's risky
> > [unlikely?], and it's probable that six more bombs will be detonated,
> > one per week, and other attacks with chemical weapons will be carried
> > out.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: How many innocent people will die?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: According to estimates made by me and Ayman Al-Zawahiro,
> > somewhere around 15 million due to the atomic bombs and their radiation.
> > Of those exposed to smallpox, 25 percent will die, approximately five
> > million, and many more due to the ensuing chaos and disorder.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: What about the American military response?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: There will practically be none. Even if five or ten cities
> > were chosen at random to be destroyed, that would still be a small price
> > to pay. The problem is the economic despair will be so great that even
> > Economizing by not using arms unnecessarily will occur, since the
> > liquidity of American goods will be almost zero and at that point the
> > United States will make more selling its Nimitz-class aircraft carriers,
> > which cost about five billion dollars, to Turkey or Italy for one
> > billion dollars, since the country will so urgently need to
> > recapitalize, though it will be too late. Moreover, how will the morale
> > of American soldiers be knowing that their entire families have died and
> > their country no longer exists. Fight for what?
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: And won't the global economy also be ruined?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: In the beginning it will be very difficult; a serious
> > economic crisis will ensue. However, without the United States, the
> > world will soon arise in a more just and fraternal manner.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: And Israel?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: As they say... it will be dessert.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Does bin Laden's spokesman, Sulaiman Abu Gheith, know that
> > you are giving this interview?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: It was he and bin Laden who suggested I give it.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Osama bin Laden is still alive?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: He is quite healthy, alongside his commanders Mohammed Atef
> > and Khalid Shaik Mohammed and Mullah Omar.
> >
> > Al-Jazeera: Aren't you fearful that Al Queda's plans will be discovered?
> >
> > Al-Asuquf: The plan is already in its countdown, and nothing can stop
> > it.
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