[Freakaloin]

u don't pacify a beaten enemy. u crush them. like the allies did when they finished their sorry asses.

i will say this though. the germans are like school girls compared to the japanese. those ppl are sick. their atrocities against civilains and pows were pathetic.

[Graverobber]

Read the book Ghost Soldiers, it's about the rescue of survivors of the Baatan death march and their life in the camps, gives a good idea on just how mistreated our boys were.

[-KLugE-]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Freakaloin:
Germans were a bunch of morons for following a meglomaniac like hitler. i say call em all nazi's. it's so pathetic that the silent majority in germany sit back and let hitler do what he did to the world.

duty to their country...puhlease...

friggin rednecks <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


First of all .


Let me put this in terms that a hick like yourself may be able to relate to.

Imagine this. A New president is elected for the USA....He's Republican....he decides to take over the world and gathers all the young men in the country to fight for him, he promises them everything they could wish for and makes it sound beautiful.... a lot of them are not for the republican but are just fighting for their country or have been brainwashed by so much propoganda that they cant even think straight.

The President comes off as an evil, insane man and nobody likes him or the evil things he does to the world. The republicans are now known as an evil party.

Do you think it's fair to say that the majority of the soldiers that fight for him that are either non-republican and are just fighting for their country or the ones that are so young and brainwashed that they dont know any better should be considered to be (evil) Republicans?

I dont think so.


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[This message has been edited by -KLugE- (edited January 10, 2002).]

[Manny]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Freakaloin:
u don't pacify a beaten enemy. u crush them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


The British crushed Germany during World War I, and it caused another war 2 times as big as the first one...

[hossy904]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Graverobber:
Read the book Ghost Soldiers, it's about the rescue of survivors of the Baatan death march and their life in the camps, gives a good idea on just how mistreated our boys were.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Currently reading it...excellent book, but very upsetting what happened. Disgusting, at times.

[Graverobber]

How far along are you?

[HOTSPOT]

guys why are u trying to xplain this to this idiot? U have said enough to make this guy understand. But he still doesnt.

He just doesn't want to understand or admit that he could be wrong. Freakloins is just messing with u guys, he doesnt care. The more annoyed u guys get te more he likes it.

Dont give him wut he wants!

[Ramza]

The Grossdeutschland division (which my SIG is named in honor of) was originally formed as Wachregiment Berling, back in the 1920's. It had no polticial affiliation with the Nationalist Socialist German Worker's Party at all, and was simply incorperated into the army as a regular division. Albeit touted as "The pride of the German people", Grossdeutschland was in fact formed of young men who had barely any training. However, it eventually got it's act together and proved itself time and time again, becoming one of the most experienced non-Waffen SS units avalible to the German army. It was eventually whittled down to almost nothing by 1945 after almost continous combat on the Eastern front, and eventually surrendered. While it was true some SS tank commanders served in the GD, none of them committed atrocities until long after they had been transfered out.

Just a fun little history lesson, and while I'm not saying that the GD soldiers were knights in shining armor, they were originally created to defend their nation, and in a sense were mislead and used by for his own schemes.

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Grossdeutschland Division.

[hossy904]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Graverobber:
How far along are you?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Only page 73...got it for Christmas and haven't had time to read much due to work and my TiVo (wow!!). The first few pages (the japs shooting & burning the American's in the trenches, including the sword slicing the guy's head in half...) were more than enough for me to slow down. A great book, and very eye-opening.

[Dice]

The average German soldier was not a nazi....he was simply doing his duty to his country. Sure, some were. All SS Units were definately nazi, and thus were treated as such when the war finished.
I dislike people labelling all soldiers on the German part of the axis side as nazis and when a DEVELOPER called axis soldiers Nazis that really shocked me as to how little fact had been looked into. As a patriotic American I know Hollywood (which, face it, is where most of us get our knowledge of WW2) usually paints a black and white picture of good vs. bad - american vs. nazi but this wasnt the case. If you look at SPR there they tried to show there was evil on both sides. I'm not saying the Germans werent aggressors or being run by an awful fascist dicatorship, but the avg. soldier himself would have been fighting to save his life and his country NOT for hitler. Please do not make the mistake.


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[Freakaloin]

Germans were a bunch of morons for following a meglomaniac like hitler. i say call em all nazi's. it's so pathetic that the silent majority in germany sit back and let hitler do what he did to the world.

duty to their country...puhlease...

friggin rednecks

[Quik]

FYI..most German mainstream soldiers were unaware of the atrocities that Hitler was reigning down on the world. To say that all German soldiers are "Nazi's" in ignorant. Just my .02

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[FuBarGrn]

yeah...nice flame....real intelligent,musta took a LOT of thought....nOOb....damn...
I have to agree with the dice...and YOU are prolly just ANOTHER kid Blinded by hollywood...
you wanna try and compare the history of war??I bet you a buck I can state SEVERAL instances where the US committed acts of genocide...what about "duty to the country"...huh?
What you gotta say about that?....does that make the ENTIRE American Armed forces EVIL????


And how in the Hell were the "silent majority"of people in germany supposed to do something about it???
hitler Had an enire division of troops that were his personal bodyguards (the Waffen-ss 1st division Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler)that'd be just like us trying to go and get the President of the US....
not a real smart thing to try....
now how Pathetic is that?? and how do we know that something WASN'T tried....obviously they failed...but who are we to accuse an ENTIRE nation...???

that is just plain stoooopid....exactly what I expected from a nOOb.....


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Mein Ehre Heisst Treue
Das Geminschaft
2nd SS Panzer Division

THXXXXX U DICCE!!!!!!!!!! THX U for saying this. I've also been trying to say this in lamespy. But people say we should of made them make a huge whol and nuek the krauts.
DAMNIT! The soldier is just a soldier fighting fo rhis country. Ok Germany was brainwashed by properganda and Hitler Theory.
If I HAD A CHOISE I WOULD OF FOUGHT IN THE WERMACHT OR THE LUFTWAFFE THEN THE DAMN MESSED UP RED ARMY!!! The red army made conscipts march into minefields to pave the way. They also raped Young women in Germany. Also Stalin killed more people then Hitler. (hitler is 3rd stalin 2nd) This is all im gona say now but il be back. Oh yeah also! Germany loss of stupid decision bye hitler. IF he luanched OPeration sea lion Britain be Geramny. ALso if hilter said to Japan he'll declar war on US if only japan helped him attack russia. OKim getting worked up so bye.

[kimmen]

Not all germans where nazis...

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