Bolt action rifle?

Assassin788 · 07-26-2001, 05:17 AM

in these pics it shows a bolt action rifle.....well didn't the americans use the m1 grand rifle which was semi auto?

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filter...7649-62,00.html

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filter...7649-61,00.html

mikecs18 · 07-26-2001, 05:30 AM

The pic was the mauser rifle that you can pick up.

Assassin788 · 07-26-2001, 06:04 AM

you can pick up rifles? well thats cool but i wouldnt pick it up since the m1 was alot more reliable and its semi auto even tho i like the sound of the bolt

Hells-Angel · 07-26-2001, 07:19 AM

mauser is one of the most reliable guns ever

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Bürgen · 07-26-2001, 08:41 AM

I would take my trusty Mauser over an M1 anyday! the garand has comparitavly NO stopping power, and I don't have to worry about the mauser not feeding.

Plus, the americans did use bolt action rifles, the M1903 series. Which was the main rifle before the M1 got into circulation in 1942 (although it was officially released in 1941), and was used as a sniper rifle untill it was replaced by remington designs late in Viet-Nam.

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Bürgen · 07-26-2001, 08:42 AM

Amen H-A!

Bürgen · 07-26-2001, 11:09 PM

Well, you don't take 'pot-shots' when using a mauser, or any weapon in the military. You AIM then fire. In WW2, almost 75% of all kills by the german military was as a result of ONE shot! (That is FACT)

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Von Paulus · 07-26-2001, 11:18 PM

Phew, Impressive...

Burgen: What was the other 25% ?
I mean, 2, 3, Bayonettes ? etc

SoLiDUS · 07-26-2001, 11:22 PM

Really ? So they had statisticians on the field with them at all times calculating how many bullets they used up per soldier ?

COME ON.

I won't dismiss it as pure horse shit just yet, but I would like to see the source of this interesting bit of information...

"That is FACT"

Then you will have no problem in providing me with this fun-filled factoid. I highly doubt that three quarters of the german army were capable "snipers" and only needed one bullet per allied soldier. Seems highly unrealistic too me.

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Bürgen · 07-26-2001, 11:24 PM

Yes, the german military fielded MANY semi -auto rifles. They just weren't in as good of supply as the K98. They Had the K/G43 (some say it is the preqursor to the Russian SKS), they also in 1944 started equiping thier soldiers with the grand-daddy of ALL modern Assault-Rifles, the MP43/StG44. which was selective fire (semi or full auto). But they weren't as cheap and easy to produce and out of only a couple hundred thousand made, less than a third reached the front by the end of the war.

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blade · 07-26-2001, 11:32 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bürgen:
Well, you don't take 'pot-shots' when using a mauser, or any weapon in the military. You AIM then fire. In WW2, almost 75% of all kills by the german military was as a result of ONE shot! (That is FACT)

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*Laughs*

The propaganda got em

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t_style · 07-26-2001, 11:37 PM

I'll have to agree with SoLiDUS here. That 75% sounds pretty high... I wonder how in the world have they come up with that number. I mean, it would be nearly impossible to measure the accuracy of a soldier on the battlefield correctly.

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SoLiDUS · 07-26-2001, 11:37 PM

Don't believe everything you read man.
You might be very dissapointed when the
truth comes slamming down on you.

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Bürgen · 07-27-2001, 12:06 AM

Unlike the US Army which only provides reruits with 2 1/2 weeks of Basic training and 3 weeks of 'advanced infantry training', the German Wehrmacht required 8 weeks (two months), of 'basic', and then 4 months of Infantry training, 4 hours of EACH DAY was spent on the rifle range and you would not graduate unless you earned the Markmanship Lanyard. So in a way, the average german rifle man WAS in many ways equal to an American sniper. Also, German soldiers were trained to engage the enemy at long range in order to take into account the EXCELENT accuracy or the Mauser G/K98, and stay out of range of the deadly allied close range weapons.

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[This message has been edited by Bürgen (edited July 27, 2001).]

blade · 07-27-2001, 12:18 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bürgen:
Unlike the US Army which only provides reruits with 2 1/2 weeks of Basic training and 3 weeks of 'advanced infantry training', the German Wehrmacht required 8 weeks (two months), of 'basic', and then 4 months of Infantry training, 4 hours of EACH DAY was spent on the rifle range and you would not graduate unless you earned the Markmanship Lanyard. So in a way, the average german rifle man WAS in many ways equal to an American sniper. Also, German soldiers were trained to engage the enemy at long range in order to take into account the EXCELENT accuracy or the Mauser G/K98, and stay out of range of the deadly allied close range weapons.

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Well... IF WE HAD 20 YEARS TO TRAIN OUR SOLDIERS, WE MIGHT BE 'L33T' LIKE THE GERMANS...

Think here for a min... Hitler had all the time he wanted to train his troops.. The US had to train the men,(mind you, we were in the process of demilitarizing our country, until the japs bombed pearl harbor) then send them all the way to the pacific and europe.. that took a lot of time.. The Germans could just train there men and walk out the backdoor and start fighting.. heh..

BTW - There is NO way it could be 75%..

Theres my 2 cents worth...

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