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				08-09-2004, 02:59 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Personal preference really. I'd go with the ATI chipset, but that's me. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-09-2004, 03:21 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Get the 9800 Pro. 
 
 
Edit: Apparently many people's cards are showing up as 9800XTs. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-09-2004, 03:33 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		These are the specs I am getting, what do you think 
 
Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)   
    Linkworld Black/Silver ATX Mid Tower Case with 400W Power Supply, Model "3131P-C2628U" -RETAIL  
Specifications:  
Case Type: Mid Tower Case  
Color: Black/Silver  
Material: Steel  
Drive Bays: 5.25" x 4/0, 3.5" x 3/5 (external/internal)  
Expansion Slots: 7  
Front Ports: 2 x USB2.0  
Power Supply: P4-400W  
Cooling System: 1 rear fan  
Motherboard Compatibility: ATX  
Dimensions: 18" x 21" x 8.75" more info> 
 N82E16811164046  $25.75  
 $25.75  
 
 
Hard Drives   
Western Digital 80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD800JD, OEM Drive Only  
Specifications: 
Capacity: 80GB 
Average Seek Time: 8.9 ms 
Buffer: 8MB 
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM 
Interface: Serial ATA 
Features: Not specified 
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years 
Packaging: OEM Drive Only 
vsd N82E16822135106  $69.99  
  
Memory (System Memory)   
Kingston ValueRAM Dual Channel Kit 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail 
Specifications: 
Manufacturer: Kingston 
Speed: DDR400(PC3200) 
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM 
Error Checking: Non-ECC 
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered 
Cas Latency: 3 
Support Voltage: 2.6V 
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s 
Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit 
Warranty: Lifetime N82E16820141423  $167.00  
 $167.00  
 
Motherboards - Intel   
SOYO "SY-P4I865PE Plus DRAGON 2 V1.0" 865PE Chipset Motherboard For Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL 
Specifications: 
Supported CPU: Socket 478 Pentium 4(HT)/Celeron Processors 
Chipset: i865PE + ICH5 
FSB: 800/533MHz 
RAM: 4 DIMM for Dual Channel DDR 400/333 Max 4GB 
Slots: 1x AGP 8x, 5x PCI, 1x CNR 
Ports: 2x PS/2, 1x COM, 1x LPT, 6x USB2.0(Rear 4), 1x RJ45, Audio Ports 
IDE: 2x ATA 100/66 up to 4 Devices 
SATA/RAID: 2x SATA 
Onboard Audio: C-Media CMI 9761A 6-channel 
Onboard LAN: Realtek RTL8100C 10/100 Ethernet 
Form Factor: ATX N82E16813139144  $72.00  
 
Processors   
Intel Pentium 4/ 2.8E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - Retail 
Specifications: 
Model: Intel Pentium 4 w/ Hyper Threading 
Core: Prescott 
Operating Frequency: 2.8GHz 
FSB: 800MHz 
Cache: L1/12K+16K; L2/1MB 
Voltage: 1.25-1.525V 
Process: 0.09Micron 
Socket: Socket 478 
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3 
Warranty: 3-year MFG 
Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)  
 N82E16819116170 $177.00  
 
Video Cards   
MSI ATI RX9800PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/S-Video, 8X AGP, Model "RX9800PRO-TD128" -RETAIL 
Specifications: 
Chipset/Core Speed: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro/378MHz 
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/676MHz 
BUS: AGP 4X/8X 
Ports: VGA + DVI + S-Video 
Support 3D API: DirectX 9.0, OpenGL 2.0 
Cable/Accessories: S-Video Cable, Driver, Games Bundle (see pics) 
Max Resolution@32bit Color:2048X1536@85Hz  
Retail Box (See pics for details) 
N82E16814127127  $194.00  
 
  
  
Subtotal » $ 705.74 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-09-2004, 05:04 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		That memory sucks... CAS 3 is really slow. Aim for CAS 2.5 or even better CAS 2. 
 
Never heard of SOYO motherboards... Stick to name brands like Abit, Asus, MSI, ect. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-09-2004, 05:07 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		what if i just get 1 gig of corsair? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-09-2004, 05:08 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Corsair is better. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-09-2004, 05:08 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		[quote="The Frenchman":8abc5]Personal preference really. I'd go with the ATI chipset, but that's me.[/quote:8abc5] 
 
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				08-09-2004, 05:11 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		
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				Corsair is better. 
			
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 get on aim or msn, i added you to both  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-09-2004, 05:13 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		so i want Cas Latency to be below 3? 
 
what else should i look for to help my memory run faster 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-09-2004, 05:59 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		
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				That memory sucks... CAS 3 is really slow. Aim for CAS 2.5 or even better CAS 2. 
 
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 soyo is a major brand, just not a good one.
 
that RAM is fine, id aim for Crucial in that price range tho.
 
There is really not that much difference between RAM w/ Different timings, at least not enough to justify paying 2x as much.... the ram he has is fine, and he would never notice enough of a performance difference to justify the price jump.  The only time you should get high perf ram is if everything else in your system is TOP of the line... You could throw the extra 160 bucks you save getting Crucial instead of mush 222 into a bigger, beefier vid card, that would yield a much better performance difference.
 
but if you have the cash, get some OCZ, ive heard it runs well on Intel, but i wouldnt know cause intel sux
 
The video card, nice choice but i would get the 256 version.... setup looks good, i woulda gone w/ a bigger HD tho.. ive filled my 120gb with music and movies in about 2 months...  happy:  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-09-2004, 06:01 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		also, frenchman... mushkin is great ram, if you got the cash 222 special is fuckin 1337 
 
if not get lvl 1 or lvl 2, theyre not that much more and if your gonna shell out the extra $$ its worth it to go a little higher up the line, blue is good stuffs tho 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-09-2004, 06:42 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		if possible.. elixir is excellent...for memory wise... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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