[Hawke]

I watched it all and it was very interesting and sounds very reasonable but gives me goosebumps at the thought of our government doing that.

[Webb]

Yeah Central Park !!!

[Bullitt]

rolleyes: hake:

[Vance]

nag:

Originally Posted by Webb

Yeah what about the Penn,Shanksville crash site, NO BODIES,NO PLANE PARTS,NO SEATS,NO LANDING GEAR,NO ENGINE... Just a hole on the ground. eek:

http://nineeleven2001.t35.com/images/shanksville-5.jpg

"One half-ton piece of engine is found over a mile away."

Yeah. I guess that's...natural-grown metal and seatbelts. Right?..


You know what the ground does to a non-penetration bomb going 800 feet per second? It obliterates it. It's gone. Nothing more than a few shards of metal. Now think of what a plane going relatively the same speed happens when that hits the ground. Much less, a human body. You don't have to be a genius to come up with a reasonable answer.

[TGB!]

Government involved yet NO GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL has leaked information implicating them?

We cant hide abuse photos, Downing Street Memos, the existence of a secret spy program, and the identity of who leaked the name of a CIA agent -

Yet somehow, someway - were able to keep secret our explicit involvement in the training, funding, transportation, and co-ordination of attacks on the WTC; without a SINGLE person stepping forward and telling some plucky news reporter to "follow the money".

Oh yea.

very interesting video, i wouldn't dismiss it as nonsense. like already stated, there is definently more to 9/11 than meets the eye.

[ninty]

[quote="TGB!":6abab]Government involved yet NO GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL has leaked information implicating them?

We cant hide abuse photos, Downing Street Memos, the existence of a secret spy program, and the identity of who leaked the name of a CIA agent -

Yet somehow, someway - were able to keep secret our explicit involvement in the training, funding, transportation, and co-ordination of attacks on the WTC; without a SINGLE person stepping forward and telling some plucky news reporter to "follow the money".

Oh yea.[/quote:6abab]

I don't think anyone is really saying everyone in the government knew what was going on. I would say this would be an extremly small group.

In any event, the anomilies during that day are enough to arouse suspision regardless of whether or not it seems plausible to some, in my opinion.

By the way, have you watched this video?

[Chiodos86]

Originally Posted by Hawke

1 hour 21 minutes. ed:

it may be 81 minutes but it's definetly worth the time hawke

[Chiodos86]

[quote="TGB!":0e2cd]Government involved yet NO GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL has leaked information implicating them?

We cant hide abuse photos, Downing Street Memos, the existence of a secret spy program, and the identity of who leaked the name of a CIA agent -

Yet somehow, someway - were able to keep secret our explicit involvement in the training, funding, transportation, and co-ordination of attacks on the WTC; without a SINGLE person stepping forward and telling some plucky news reporter to "follow the money".

Oh yea.[/quote:0e2cd]

probably becuase our image would be completely shot to fucking hell and no one would want anything to do with us ever again. but yes you have a valid point.

[TGB!]

[quote:5697d]I don't think anyone is really saying everyone in the government knew what was going on.[/quote:5697d]

I didnt say everyone either. However, lets look at some of the key people implicated in the coverup:

President George Bush.
Vice President Dick Cheney.
Then Attorney General John Ashcroft.
Chief of Staff Andy Card
Karl Rove
Sec of Def. Donald Rumsfield
Larry Silverstein ("owner" of the WTC)
(by implication of the above) NY Mayor Rudy Guilliani
NY Fire Department
The FTA
Osama Bin Laden (and his lieutenants)
Anyone apart of the teams inspecting the crash sites

Possibly:
Sec. Condoleeza Rice
Fmr. Sec. Colin Powell
FMR CIA Chief Tenent (and really this guy should be in the main players considering the information that comes across his desk).

Who else. . .I cant think of anyone right now off the top of my head.

So you have these key players, and their surrounding staff, and however many operatives/agents/whoever working the angle in Afghanistan and The United States - easily the "conspiracy" encompases minimum - lets say 70 to 100 people, to get this thing. Easily. Anything less - its impossible given the people involved who are supposed to have had a hand in all this. But even if you have a STINGY estimate of what 25 to 50 people solely involved in the conspiracy (not taking into account the bombers themselves, OBL and his men) - we're supposed to believe that not a SINGLE PERSON in the group would crack, would have second thoughts, would suspect anythings going on, would question why theyre facilitating the movement of arab nationals into the country or providing them with flight training. . .all this happened within a span of seven months, and without a single person leaking ANY information? This intricate plan which has YET to be broken in any convincing way is the work of supposed "morons" and "incompotents" within the Bush Admin?

[quote:5697d]I would say this would be an extremly small group.[/quote:5697d]

For an operation this large? Not likely.

[quote:5697d]In any event, the anomilies during that day are enough to arouse suspision regardless of whether or not it seems plausible to some, in my opinion.[/quote:5697d]

What anomalies? Jet Fighters not being scrambled? The President saying he saw the towers fall "before" they did? Uhm - what else?

[quote:5697d]By the way, have you watched this video?[/quote:5697d]

Nope - and I have zero desire to. Just like I have no desire to watch any "pro 9-11 was the work of terrorists only" videos. All of this is conjecture built on small piles of evidence - theories whose parts are greater than its sum (thats not a good thing).

[Coleman]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,191420,00.html

[c312]

Originally Posted by Coleman

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,191420,00.html

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12286423/:5f8e6]same story, but with transcript[/url:5f8e6]

[Coleman]

Originally Posted by c312

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12286423/:9a0ad]same story, but with transcript[/url:9a0ad]

there's a link to the transcript in there a few paragraphs down the_finger: beer:

[c312]

Originally Posted by Coleman

there's a link to the transcript in there a few paragraphs down the_finger: beer:

crap, I looked for it, but I didn't see it. I guess it was because it wasn't in the body of a paragraph. oh well

[Pyro]

what was awesome...never seen that before.

it seems plausible...but if this shit is true...id be pissed off Canada ever respected the US...

Mass Murder.......is not a good thing.