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				03-21-2007, 03:13 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 [img]http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/Images/pcwa2x16sl.jpg[/img]
 M4A2 Izzy .223
 
 Went to the gun store today to get some ammo for my lil' .22 revolver and saw that rifle. Oh man, i really wanted to walk out of the store with it but didn't want to buy something like that on impulse.
 
 Milla (or you military guys), what do you think? The only long gun i own is a .20 ga shottie. Would like to add something like this to my collection.[/img]
  
            
               
 
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				03-21-2007, 03:26 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 Whenever im lookin at a new weapon I ask myself, If I had it what would I do with it and how often would I shoot it. I have several myself. I do the cowboy action shooting, 12 GA. double barrel coach gun, winchester lever action and 2 single action colts.The pistols and winchestaer shot .357 or .38 special so I dont have to buy different ammo for both. I also have a 20ga. shotgun and a savage .22 long rifle target rifle, and a .50 cal hawkins black powder rifle. 
 Im always lookin at guns in shows or stores, But I ask myself the question, What would I do with it, and mostly walk away. What caliber is that thing, It is a fine lookin weapon. Probably would be fun at the range.
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				03-21-2007, 03:41 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 how much was it? looks nice.  
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				03-21-2007, 03:43 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 Caliber is .223 and the price tag was a tad over $1000
 I'll definately shoot it at an outdoor range with some of my friends who have hunting rifles. I was also thinking of a weapons ban. Fuckers are trying to pass another "assault weapons" ban and would like to get something before i can't. The .45 i want can wait. Been wanting a .45 since 1990 and still don't have one. Guess i can wait a few more months.
  
            
               
 
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				03-21-2007, 04:00 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 First of all 1000 for that is expensive. You can get yourself a Bushmaster with a 16 inch barrel, same flash hider we use in the military and a removable carrying handle for like 899. 
But yes i want a M4 myself. My advise to you my good friend is shop around first. And defiantly look into getting a Bushmaster AR-15. They are probably the best for the money.
http://www.bhgunrack.com/viewproduct.as ... inv_ID=823 
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				03-21-2007, 04:03 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 
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				 First of all 1000 for that is expensive. You can get yourself a Bushmaster with a 16 inch barrel, same flash hider we use in the military and a removable carrying handle for like 899.
 But yes i want a M4 myself. My advise to you my good friend is shop around first. And defiantly look into getting a Bushmaster AR-15. They are probably the best for the money.
 |  Yeah Milla, i saw one online for $900 but i have to be careful it's NY legal. Shipping alone would probably be close to $100 for the stupid thing. Anything else i should know about Milla? Yes, it's a Bushmaster. 
            
               
 
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				03-21-2007, 04:07 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 Milla, NY law states: no Flash suppressor, no bayonet, and no foldable stock. 
 Yeah, sucks here with all the anti gun shit
  
            
               
 
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				03-21-2007, 04:31 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 
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				 Milla, NY law states: no Flash suppressor, no bayonet, and no foldable stock. 
 Yeah, sucks here with all the anti gun shit
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				03-21-2007, 04:37 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 
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				 Milla, NY law states: no Flash suppressor, no bayonet, and no foldable stock. 
 Yeah, sucks here with all the anti gun shit
 |  Move to VA. Otherwise i wouldn't even bother getting one if you cant own it the way its suppose to be. But the one in the pic has a foldable stock (the pic you originally posted) |  
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				03-21-2007, 04:55 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 Perhaps i should buy one in VA and bring it home.  
            
               
 
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				 Yeah, sucks here with all the anti gun shit |  [img]http://www.quizlaw.com/blog/images/hillary.jpg[/img] |  Well, we're all fucked in '08 when she wins. Better stock up now. 
            
               
 
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				03-21-2007, 05:00 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
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				03-21-2007, 05:01 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 Wow, and I thought CA laws were dumb.  "HE MIGHT STAB SOMEONE WITH THAT SHARP POINTY THING ON HIS GUN!!!" |  
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				03-21-2007, 05:48 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 the stock in his pic is telescoping, not folding.  I think by folding stock they mean stocks that fold up on the side or on top like some shotgun stocks do.
 I would be able to own that in Canada as long as it's semi auto, and depending on the barrel length, so i'm sure you could own one in NY.
 
 I'm looking to get an m4gery.  I think 16" barrel is smallest i can go and real m4 is 14.5".
 
 You want to see stupid gun laws come here.  Prohibited weapons are prohibited because of how they look.  Someone sits at a desk and says "that looks scary, let's ban it" and they do.  So i can't buy a FN FAL even though it's no different from 100 other rifles I can buy.  Also .25 and .32 cal pistols are banned.  Why?  Nobody knows.  I can buy a .50 cal, .45, .40 etc, but i can't buy a .32 or .25.  oOo:
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				03-21-2007, 05:54 PM
			
			
			
		 
               
 arkan where did you get the info for weapons in ny state?
 PS: my friend is getting a concealed weapons permit, and i dont understand why, is he wasting his time/money?
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