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Default 03-14-2003, 04:45 PM

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Err..nooo..... The two situations do not even compare. In Stalingrad, they (Germany and Russia) were both fighting for control of the city. If anything it's more like Leningrad, but I see the Iraqis surrendering long before they can break the siege. We are capable of firing precision guided munitions to take out key buildings, enabling us to demoralize them and convince them to give up. This way, we avoid having street-to-street battles where our forces are most vulnerable.
Er yes. Siting Beevor's Stalingrad as reference. Axis Bombed the hell out of Stali creating the pockets of resistance and areas in contention. Leveled the city. Russians used the rubble as cover and were able to hold off superior forces and numbers. Also relocated C&C to various locatiuons when being overun. they relied on being resupplied across the Volga..but i digress (and if oyu would like to debate this further we can start a topic over in History forum, but Eastern Front is a hobby of mine since Im Hungarian). Public opinion, and politicians will not let people be starved into submission. That would be a horrific political and humanitarian nightmare. Not like war isnt both anyway. The metaphorical alliteration to Stalingrad was missed by you my friend. The urban fighting and collateral damage, as well as civilian deaths would be catastrophic, unless and unconditional surrender is guaranteed....

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You just proved my point right there, pal. The Germans did not surround the city and force them to surrender. This option should be used to avoid urban fighting. I frankly don't give a shit if the Iraqis are stupid enough to resist. Our soldiers are worth more than them, to me. Your "metaphorical alliteration" is completely off. The whole idea in surrounding the city is to avoid street fighting like what occured in Stalingrad, Mogadishu, etc.. Again, the fighting in Stalingrad and the strategy I proposed would not even compare.
  
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