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[quote="{TRC}ZenMaster":5adfa]...Which reminds me of the swastica. Its actually an old Christian symbol , like the fish.[/quote:5adfa]

actually the swastika can be found in both pre-christian Roman and even earlier Greek art and painting. It was also used by both these cultures as a decortive element in archetecture, often in a continuos pattern-like manner. The symbol also appears in early samurai cultures, and in Hindu cultures. Its ancient application was usually as a symbol of life or more often universiality. essentually it is a basic symbol created by adding arms to a cross/plus symbol, or by removing lines from a quartered square, so it isn't surprising that it is used commonly before the times of Hitler or even Christ. Hitler adopted this symbol for those reasons, he knew that it was already a recognized symbol that in most cultures carried a positve connetation, not the symbol of hate he morphed it into. He also used to claim that because the symbol existed in Roman times that they had pre-destined his empre and that it would in effect continue the Roman legacy of imperial rule in Europe, notice that the other main symbol of the Nazi's was the eagle, also the truly main symbol of the Roman Empire. Hitler apparently went as far as to have nazi "archaeologists" carve swastikas on existing monuments to further his assertion.