[garasaki]

Hey, I build custom computers as a small side business, email me if you'd like me to work on something for you. No offense, but there's a lot of important things you're not considering/dont know enough about, and getting advice on a mohaa forum is not gonna help much. Also, being from the US, I could probably get much better prices on parts then you can. And whoever suggested newegg to this guy, they don't ship to canada. Email me here Garasaki@aol.com

Hey Mr Special ED, what happened to your opinion that DDR RAM isn't any better then SDRAM???

[quote:9deda]Hey ED Since you came out and said that 2 gig processor is more than enough I was wondering where i could be getting some frame lag from in BF1942.

P4 2.0 (northwood)
512 DDR PC 2100
G4 4200 Ti 128 DDR

Im thinking the G4's ram speed is the problem, since its slower than the 64 versions. Just wondering if you had suggestions.[/quote:9deda]

It aint the CARD, the CPU, or the MEMORY. It's the game. Although if you have your card overcocked in anyway, it might affect it, but I've found - ESPECIALLY on levels with planes rendering, that there is HORRIBLE lag. BATTLEFIELD takes ALOT to run, but not so much that a system like that shouldn't be able to deliver 30-50 fps on high settings. On levels like BERLIN, BULGE, STALIN, etc. I get the frames I'm supposed to get. On GAZALA, EL ALMIEN, etc I get the frames, but I get nasty lag.

[quote:9deda]Hey Mr Special ED, what happened to your opinion that DDR RAM isn't any better then SDRAM???[/quote:9deda]

You must have heard me wrong. Technically speaking DDR is OBVIOUSLY "better" than SDRAM - my point ALWAYS has been is it needed. For now, no. It's nice if you have that cash to spend on it, but me I LOVE money and if I cant justify a purchase in my mind, I wont get it. 512 DDR is fine if you can get a good deal, and is probably as high as I would go right now. 1gig and up - just excessive to the point of ridiculousness. Show me any CASUAL user who at any given time even has 1gig of processes running, and I'll show you someone doing TOO MANY things at once.

[garasaki]

Well, I agree with you about 2 things:

First, lag in BF42 is due to the program. I only have the demo, but it runs awesome on my computer...except that every once in a while, for no appearant reason whatsoever, it lags hardcore. Just once, not consistantly, not for any reason...it just lags. I figure it must just be typically buggy EA games code...

Secondly, anything over 512 of ram is a waste.

However, I think that buying SDRAM is also a waste of money. I still don't think you understand what DDR is. Having DDR ram does not mean that you've "doubled" the amount of ram you have installed. It means the ram runs twice as fast (well, not actually twice as fast but in theory). That means anything which goes into ram (which is a lot of stuff) gets processed faster. 512 megs of DDR is not equivilent to 1 gig of SDRAM. It's the same amount of storage space, just faster.

[quote:c8f59]However, I think that buying SDRAM is also a waste of money. I still don't think you understand what DDR is. Having DDR ram does not mean that you've "doubled" the amount of ram you have installed. It means the ram runs twice as fast (well, not actually twice as fast but in theory). That means anything which goes into ram (which is a lot of stuff) gets processed faster. 512 megs of DDR is not equivilent to 1 gig of SDRAM. It's the same amount of storage space, just faster.[/quote:c8f59]

Lol. This I know. DDR is still a waste of money right now in my opinion. I mean, it's this whole sub-culture where "faster" is better and absolutely needed. I mean you're gonna see guys go out and spend 400-500 dollars on the new nVidia card. FOR WHAT! So they can get an extra 300 points on their 3DMARK score. That, in my frugal mind, is fucking sick. I cannot understand why a casual gamer needs anything (at the moment) over 1.5gigs of CPU speed, 512megs of ram, and a 64mb DDR video card.

But, just like clockwork, when those new 3 gig cpus come out, and they read them reviews, they MUST have it. Spend 500 on a vacation with your significant other - nah. Gonna go get a l337(sp?) CPU.

Insane.

Keep in mind this is NOT directed at you, just my general opinion about this attitude.

[Bazooka_Joe]

Go for this:

at least a P4 More than 2.53Ghrz, 533FSB, or a Athlon XP 2200.

At least 256MB of either PC-800 RDRAM or PC2700 DDR RAM

At least a GF4 Ti 4400 128MB or RADEON 9000

Personally, I'd get a P4 system, with the GF card, and RDRAM, PC-1066 if you can afford it.

DO NOT GET A COMBO. only a fool would do that build your own. then you can up grade as need be in the future. you dont want any onboard built shit.

if you have that kinda of cash do it right

[quote:ba12f]DO NOT GET A COMBO. only a fool would do that build your own. then you can up grade as need be in the future. you dont want any onboard built shit.

if you have that kinda of cash do it right[/quote:ba12f]

Yea, dont get a combo and save money. That's the foolish thing to do.

You SPANISH people. hake:

[absolute]

Actually, it's usually cheaper to build your own computer than it is to buy a prebuilt one from a computer store. I saved $1000 when i built mine.

A COMBO here means MOBO/CPU. And yes building your computer IS cheaper than paying for it full price, since the cost of construction IS included in all that, and you can pick and choose the things you need. If you have an existing computer, it SHOULD be alot cheaper to upgrade since you already have several pre-components.

[SoLiDUS]

[quote:151d2]Lol. This I know. DDR is still a waste of money right now in my opinion. I mean, it's this whole sub-culture where "faster" is better and absolutely needed. I mean you're gonna see guys go out and spend 400-500 dollars on the new nVidia card. FOR WHAT! So they can get an extra 300 points on their 3DMARK score. That, in my frugal mind, is fucking sick. I cannot understand why a casual gamer needs anything (at the moment) over 1.5gigs of CPU speed, 512megs of ram, and a 64mb DDR video card. [/quote:151d2]

You want to know what's fucking sick ? Perpetual upgrading by twisted
companies looking to cash in on the morons who still think we have nothing
better than 2.whatever GHZ machines. Nigga please, the military had that
shit 10 years ago :P

The only argument I can find is "what to do with the hardware when the
poor programmers have it..." ? Think consoles: a year later, things aren't
so bad, are they ? ;-)

Also, if the military found a way to use the new hardware, so can the
"standard" programmer.

Perpetual upgrade, I stab at thee !

EDIT (joke): I want my holodeck!!! cry:

[r3mix]

2.whatever GHZ machines. Nigga please, the military had that shit 10 years ago :P[/quote]

its crack Spock
but not as we know it

ed wrote.[quote:e95f7]Yea, dont get a combo and save money. That's the foolish thing to do.

You SPANISH people.
[/quote:e95f7]

yeah get a combo so in two years when your video card needs a upgrade, and you have one pci slot. you fucked. but i see he changed his words to a mobo combo wich is a good idea but. thats the standard usaly you buy them together.

and he said 3000 you can build a top of the line comp for that, so why go dell, or some crap.

and ed did some hot mexican chick rip you a new ass so you hate there race now?

[Innoxx]

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[Zap. USMC]

I'd get a AMD if you're using it for gaming... oh yeah, DON'T get an MX version of the Geforce. Get a Ti or Ultra.

Anyone have the AMD XP? Any good?

[garasaki]

Yeah, my 800 dollar computer based on a AMD Athlon XP 1600+ gets 11741 3dmarks...

Lets see someone beat that for less cash!