ok keyboard tough guy. one last thought and im done with this but im sure you and i will meet again sometime..first of all go back and read your own posts. you might learn somethin about yourself. scary as that might seem.its people like you the rest of us must put up with to enjoy this forum..and lastly..thats not what i ment about the fork. if you were my next door neighbor by now youd be typin standin up tryin to figure out how to get that fork outa your own ass. AND THATS FOR SURE AND FOR CERTAIN...BUTCHER