[SoLiDUS]

[quote:f6cb1]the other half tells me that this will prevent the death of thousands of Americans. [/quote:f6cb1]

You amuse me if you truly believe that "Homeland Security" will change
something... ANYTHING... other than strip you of more rights and freedoms.
It in NO WAY will stop terrorists from doing what they want if even ECHELON
and other supposed security measures and intelligence couldn't figure 9/11
out before it happened. Like I said, either your security systems are a joke
or they let 9/11 happen... and if they did, ask yourself why: you might find
a very surprising answer.

[Old Reliable]

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS

I just downloaded 1984 a week ago and should start reading it soon biggrin:

you can download books? what the fuck? there is a library...

[Thermopyle]

Originally Posted by Germ

isnt it about what the future will be like if the nazis had won the war? it was a long time ago

Originally Posted by intrestedviewer

its if the communists had taken over. They have banners of someone that looks like stalin everywhere

Its not about either the Nazis or Stalinists. Its a depiction of what life would be like under a totalitarian regime. For the movie, the makers used computers to meld together the faces of a number of totalitarian world leaders, including Hitler, Stalin, and Ayatollah Kohmeini.

Its an excellent book and I highly recommend it.

As for the policy changes the Bush Administration would like to implement, dont be too complacent in thinking that *it will never fly.* I'm sure many people would not have believed that the Red Scare, and McCarthyism would have flied either, right? But in those days, if your neighbor didnt like you, all they had to do was report you to the government, and life got pretty sucky for you.

99.8% of Americans may disagree with such a policy, but what percent knows about it? 1%? oOo:

[Argon]

Originally Posted by zxcvnm

Half of me tells me this is a terrible violation of the freedom of America that so many lives have lost for the other half tells me that this will prevent the death of thousands of Americans.

Exactly where do you draw the line, thats the million dollar question.
We gotta stop pissing people off and imposing our views on the world, but I also agree people like Sadam does not need chemical, bio, and nuclear weapons either.
I have seen the power of chemistry first hand, and its not pretty...well sometimes it is when you know what you are doing.

[Tripper]

LOL, like when you make colourful bubbles.....Soooo pretty.... happy:

[Argon]

Originally Posted by Tripper

LOL, like when you make colourful bubbles.....Soooo pretty.... happy:

...or when you have a potassium fire, that ignites a whole stile of THF (tetrahydrofuran, about as explosive as ether),explodes, and gives you 3rd degree burns and puts you in the hospital for 3 months, to have the skin taken from your legs and ass, and put on your hands and face. oOo:

Can you imagine what a chemical, bio, or nuclear weapon would do in the hands of a the wrong person?

[Tripper]

[quote:540c3]...or when you have a potassium fire, that ignites a whole stile of THF (tetrahydrofuran, about as explosive as ether),explodes, and gives you 3rd degree burns and puts you in the hospital for 3 months, to have the skin taken from your legs and ass, and put on your hands and face. [/quote:540c3]

I was replying to this:

[quote:540c3]...well sometimes it is when you know what you are doing. [/quote:540c3]

....And I wasn't serious. hake:

[Argon]

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