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02-26-2003, 12:16 PM
from America's Army game site:
[quote:cfeae]Q: Could these team missions actually help someone learn how to plan an attack? Could people use information garnered from playing the game to stage attacks?
A: …the game does not include any information that could be used against U.S. forces.
No. Just as the game is designed to protect user privacy, it is also designed to protect Army operational security. By design, the game does not include any information that could be used against U.S. forces. Operational missions are played in a force-on-force setting in which game characters are under the control of players and not artificial intelligence. Also, while players are provided guidance by virtual drill instructors during training missions, no confidential Army information is disclosed. Indeed, due to game design, player tactics and procedures are their own.
The scenarios are not set within specific locations or buildings that someone might want to attack. Rather the settings are amalgams from Army operations. Almost all of the operational missions depicted in the game are drawn from Army experience in the conduct of and preparation for homeland defense and operations in defense of freedom. Also, the game embodies certain limitations that are not found on the battlefield or real life. For example, in urban combat Soldiers maneuver through windows, doorways or if necessary, create passages using explosives. Within virtual worlds, such as the Army's game, the random placement of openings in walls or ceilings, through explosive breaching, is not possible. Therefore, in some ways, relying on the game to plan an attack would be foolish.
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Q: At one stage of the game, players are instructed on the fundamentals of basic rifle marksmanship. Does this teach young adults how to shoot a weapon?
A: …there is no way that manipulating a keyboard and mouse, as players do in the Army's game, can provide vital cues on key elements of marksmanship…
We included the rifle range because that is a basic and obvious part of military training; something a new recruit will immediately become familiar with. While the game introduces players to the look and procedures of marksmanship training, clicking a mouse is absolutely not applicable to actual marksmanship training.
When we qualify soldiers as marksmen we send them to a rifle range. We put a rifle in their hands, not a keyboard and mouse. There are a lot of physical mechanisms entailed in mastering a firearm that cannot be replicated in a game. Indeed, there is no way that manipulating a keyboard and mouse, as players do in the Army's game, can provide vital cues on key elements of marksmanship such as trigger pressure, weapon cant and body position. In the Army, under the guidance of expert coaches, our Soldiers first learn how to align their sights. They then fire many rounds to become accustomed to the recoil of a rifle and to learn how to get a good sight picture.
Even today, in an age when computer games are ubiquitous, teaching rifle marksmanship is a major hurdle in basic training and a major element of Army refresher training for Soldiers in the force. If games taught Soldiers to become marksmen, Army training would be greatly simplified. However, games don't teach our Soldiers how to shoot so we train them with real weapons and ammo on real rifle ranges.
Games may simulate the real world but they do not recreate it. No one would believe that a child could master a racecar by playing a racing game. Likewise, clicking a mouse, as a player does in the Army game, will never teach a person how to shoot.
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politically correct assholes=OWNED!
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02-26-2003, 01:02 PM
And the PC moron got burned!
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02-26-2003, 01:26 PM
those are probably the same idiots saying cs and mohaa teach people how to snipe
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02-26-2003, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Strik0r
those are probably the same idiots saying cs and mohaa teach people how to snipe
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yep, and the Army owned them
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02-26-2003, 01:37 PM
the one who asks the questions should actually play the fucking game before he makes a moron of himself mad:
liberals like him should have thier throats cut
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02-26-2003, 01:54 PM
Anti-Gamers suxs!!!!!!!!!1
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02-26-2003, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Anti-Gamers suxs!!!!!!!!!1
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So do people who think Americas Army teach you real US Army tactics.
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02-26-2003, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Anti-Gamers suxs!!!!!!!!!1
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So do people who think Americas Army teach you real US Army tactics.[/quote:69bfa]
It doesnt?!?!? ahhh im so dissapointed cry:
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02-26-2003, 02:16 PM
I'm pretty good at NHL 2003 does that mean I can lace up the skates with the Oilers and score 50 goals in 50 games?
Same logic. Some people aren't worth the skin they're made of...
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02-26-2003, 04:29 PM
LOL that's great. Argh, I think this post is hiding replies again. cry:
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