Apocalypse Now - Page 2

snipeymagoo · 04-05-2003, 08:10 PM

[quote="Capt. John Miller":0c18e]I saw like 30 mins of it on HBo, and it sucked so bad, alot of people here like it though oOo:[/quote:0c18e]
i only saw the 1st 10 lol it suxorz

Captain Bunny · 04-05-2003, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tripper

Apocalypse Now isn't a really a war movie. I don't think Coppola was intending it to be. It's more of a festival film.

So you shouldn't watch iot expecting to see a whole lot of gung-ho bollocks. It's a very deep film, and for those that have the mental capacity to understand it, it's a truly great film.

I myself never got the hang of it, but I've heard other people describe it, and read Francis Ford Coppola's explanation for it. It's intending to take a very metaphorical and figurative view on war in general. That's where somebodies mental capacity and general knowledge of the world around them comes into play.

It's just one of those films that has to be understood on multiple levels....And only the Director can really fully understand it. Most Art House films fit that description anyways.

You have basically summed the whole film up, well done.

the film doesnt suck, as some of you have put it, its just you may think it sucks because a) there isnt a lot of charlie killing and fighting, or b) as tripper says, you dont understand the film.

It is a classic and always will be.
It has been made on a much deeper level than the war itself, and you could think of it as modern art, and very ahead of its time back in the 70s.
If you watch the redux version you get a better understanding of the characters.

Static · 04-05-2003, 09:02 PM

Just finished watching it on dvd and I would be lying if I said I liked the whole thing :/ it was alright but I just didnt get at times (mostly near the end) but I loved that helicopter part biggrin: think i'l just go watch that bit again ..

Zap. USMC · 04-05-2003, 09:50 PM

Never watched it.

I haven't even watched "Full Metal Jacket" either.. I'll have to rent it one of these days.

Captain Bunny · 04-05-2003, 10:25 PM

full metal ajcket is brilliant.

anyone else seen hamburger hill?? that movie was ok. quite gory.

Tripper · 04-05-2003, 11:08 PM

[quote="Captain Bunny":973a6]full metal ajcket is brilliant.

anyone else seen hamburger hill?? that movie was ok. quite gory.[/quote:973a6]

Yeah, I enjoyed that. Directed by the same guy that did When Trumpets Fade.

Captain Bunny · 04-05-2003, 11:21 PM

[quote=Tripper]

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Originally Posted by "Captain Bunny":9f178

full metal ajcket is brilliant.

anyone else seen hamburger hill?? that movie was ok. quite gory.

Yeah, I enjoyed that. Directed by the same guy that did When Trumpets Fade.[/quote:9f178]

never seen that film (or heard of it oOo: ) is it any good?

Milla · 04-05-2003, 11:21 PM

Hamburger hill was awesome, apocalypse now, i never heard of it until like a month ago.

Slaggg · 04-05-2003, 11:44 PM

Thank you for the clarification Innox.

Very well put Tripper. Allow me to add that the movie was intended to be a character study. Not only on what war can bring out in a person, but also the frailty of the human mind.

04-06-2003, 01:24 AM

I never watched that film but I would still say PLATOON to be the best vietnam field so far. Damn good.

Harlen Maguire · 04-06-2003, 03:48 AM

I don't like the Director of Hamburger Hill...

Platoon comes out, big hit...

So he makes Hamburger Hill.

Saving Private Ryan comes out, huge hit...

He makes When Trumpets Fade.

PLUS: He's a pretty crappy director...

Slaggg · 04-06-2003, 04:20 AM

Ok, I sense you're not a John Irvin fan.

Bazooka_Joe · 04-06-2003, 05:20 AM

The only cool thing about that movie was "I love the smell of Napalm in the morning. . ."

Miscguy · 04-06-2003, 08:38 AM

Simply put as someone stated before, your one side or the other. Hate it or love it.

I'll put it this way. If your looking for an endless movie with the simpliest of plots, that proceeds to be so cluttered by character development, and dialogue, that can at times simply add to the confusion. This is the one for you. If you wish to be further bored by yet more usless character development and exposition, grab the redux version... That dosnt reduce anything.

If your looking for entertainment, something that you can watch and not yawn. Pass on by. This is a dull movie that has rare points of battle that in and of themselves are not that interesting. Consisting of some off the wall character who's only purpose is to confound you more as to there behavior. A surfer crazy air cav colonel, and a drugged out M-79 gunner who shoots by sound are a few examples that spring to mind.

No piece of footage shot before, or since has made less total sense by the ways of a continguas plot than this film. Taking so many side trips i begin to wonder if im watching six movies in one. At some points you begin to think your watching a war film, your then snapped back to reality by a liesurly boat cruise up a river in the middle of butt fucking no-where. While on that 30 minute boat ride, completly 3rd person narrated by the main character, you begin to consider how long it would have taken you to walk up the damn river and shoot the guy yourself.

Now once near the end, you begin to think, why the hell didnt they just bomb this guy since they seem to know where he is? The answer of course, they felt like sending one man, with a rag tag boat crew of assorted backgrounds, up the longest river you've ever seen. All after of course, the first attempt failed.

I've watched this film twice now. I have no desire to punish myself with the redux version. This supposed "masterpiece" is a purpose driven film. The whole purpose being an attempt to make the simplist plot, into a complex film that was a grasp for making a "deep" movie. Completing a 1 hour storiy line in 3 hours by adding unnessisary exposition, and un-godly amounts of character development, is not a piece of art.

Tripper · 04-06-2003, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Miscguy

Simply put as someone stated before, your one side or the other. Hate it or love it.

I'll put it this way. If your looking for an endless movie with the simpliest of plots, that proceeds to be so cluttered by character development, and dialogue, that can at times simply add to the confusion. This is the one for you. If you wish to be further bored by yet more usless character development and exposition, grab the redux version... That dosnt reduce anything.

If your looking for entertainment, something that you can watch and not yawn. Pass on by. This is a dull movie that has rare points of battle that in and of themselves are not that interesting. Consisting of some off the wall character who's only purpose is to confound you more as to there behavior. A surfer crazy air cav colonel, and a drugged out M-79 gunner who shoots by sound are a few examples that spring to mind.

No piece of footage shot before, or since has made less total sense by the ways of a continguas plot than this film. Taking so many side trips i begin to wonder if im watching six movies in one. At some points you begin to think your watching a war film, your then snapped back to reality by a liesurly boat cruise up a river in the middle of butt fucking no-where. While on that 30 minute boat ride, completly 3rd person narrated by the main character, you begin to consider how long it would have taken you to walk up the damn river and shoot the guy yourself.

Now once near the end, you begin to think, why the hell didnt they just bomb this guy since they seem to know where he is? The answer of course, they felt like sending one man, with a rag tag boat crew of assorted backgrounds, up the longest river you've ever seen. All after of course, the first attempt failed.

I've watched this film twice now. I have no desire to punish myself with the redux version. This supposed "masterpiece" is a purpose driven film. The whole purpose being an attempt to make the simplist plot, into a complex film that was a grasp for making a "deep" movie. Completing a 1 hour storiy line in 3 hours by adding unnessisary exposition, and un-godly amounts of character development, is not a piece of art.

That was a load of Bullshit....That's fine if it's just your opinion but if you're attempting to critique the whole for film for the benefit of us, then, well....It is a load of tripe.

This guy is writing on the "Tits, Guns, Explosions" scale. In other words, films for people with hideously low IQ's.

Don't piss on something you can't understand.