is this legal?

Innoxx · 01-13-2002, 04:25 AM

ok at school they let us play computer games,and the comp lab guy, buys the games, and makes copies of the game, so that everyone gets one for each computer, is that ok?

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Bean · 01-13-2002, 04:33 AM

what games can he get u?

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HaVoc · 01-13-2002, 04:35 AM

As long as he's not selling them yes...I think...

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Lt_Col_Tall · 01-13-2002, 04:36 AM

nope-notlegal. read the eula. he can make a backup copy, but to make extras for each computer is not legal. those are sales lost to the publisher and royalties lost to the developer.

when publishers get less return on their investment, their likely to spend less on future projects...meaning you get games with shorter development times and less resources devoted to them - and then we get to hear the bitching about shorter, buggier games from all the little kiddies that think warezing is okay. Better yet, then you'll start to wonder why so many companies develop for consoles over pc's and the outlook for good games on the pc is grim...

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Innoxx · 01-13-2002, 04:43 AM

i'm gonnd show the "guy" this thread, see what he says

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Manny · 01-13-2002, 06:12 AM

What kind of games do you play in comp class??

01-13-2002, 06:27 AM

ummmmm... does it really matter.

ppl here with burners cannot tell me that they have never backed up multiple copies of cds, and may have even sold them to their mates at school to make a quick bit of cash.

when you bought that game, you bought the rights to that game, therefore its YOUR property and you can do whatever you want with it. aslong as he isnt selling the games, it sounds pretty legit to me although by law your only entitled to own ''1'' backup. but as i said, does it really matter ? you a gunna grass him up or summit ? i wish my lab guy at school let us play games.

Capt_CruncH · 01-13-2002, 06:53 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by BL/DE:

when you bought that game, you bought the rights to that game, therefore its YOUR property and you can do whatever you want with it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Have you ever read a EULA or do you just always click accept without ever reading it. Doesnt take a lawyer to interpret that you own nothing and distributing unlicensed copys is a federal offense.
You have basically purchased a user agreement. You own nothing.

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Manny · 01-13-2002, 07:38 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by BL/DE:
ummmmm... does it really matter.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes

Just wondering... I remeber back in 7th grade we played some stupid 16 color games.

Lt_Col_Tall · 01-13-2002, 07:59 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by BL/DE:

when you bought that game, you bought the rights to that game, therefore its YOUR property and you can do whatever you want with it. aslong as he isnt selling the games, it sounds pretty legit to me although by law your only entitled to own ''1'' backup. but as i said, does it really matter ? you a gunna grass him up or summit ? i wish my lab guy at school let us play games. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wrong. YOu don't own the rights to the software. YOu only own a LICENSE to USE the software. YOu do not have ownership.

Read the EULA.

In any case, the guy isn't going to get nailed for this. I'm just answering the original question.

infornography · 01-13-2002, 08:03 AM

What this man is doing is PROBABLY illegal. It really depends on the EULA. The EULA tells what you can and cannot do with the software. Anything from here on in is just what's true 99% of the time. The EULA is the only thing which says what you can and cannot do.

If a game is freeware, most of the time you can install it on as many computers as you want. If the game is shareware, but not available in retail stores (for example, a small game sold by a small software company for $10 over the internet), it may or may not allow you to install it on multiple computers. Smaller groups are less money-grubbing and less worried about warez. If the game is made by a major game developer like EA, Eidos, Capcom, Microsoft, etc. then I can almost garuntee you are only licensed to install the game on ONE computer. Many EULA's don't even permit you to make backup copies of the game.

If anyone tries to convince you that there are universal can's and cannot's that apply to all software, like "You can make a copy of a game aslong as you don't sell it.", "It's ok to download a pirated copy of a game aslong as you delete it after 24 hours.", or "It's ok to make copies of a CD aslong as you only use it for backup purposes." DO NOT LISTEN TO THEM! These are myths. Everything that you can and cannot do with software should be in the EULA that came with the software. The EULA is a legally binding contract. Remember that.

Also, keep in mind that EULA's sometimes have statements in them that are unlawful or unconstitutional. These licenses are still subject to contract laws. If you found out you agreed to an EULA that gives Microsoft permission to come to your house with an armed SWAT team, break in, and steal your computer, don't worry. You can't sign away your rights. Another nice thing about this is that if they do put something unlawful in there, the entire EULA is null and void, making it legal to copy the games freely. I don't recommend doing this though. The software company's lawyers are probably a thousand times smarter than yours, and you'll be trampled over if you try it.

BallisticWookie · 01-13-2002, 08:12 AM

Moved to Offtopic BS.

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