[Tripper]

Originally Posted by Innoxx

It's way too inaccurate to portray ww2 veterans. Th opening beach scene was good but everything else was just too unrealistic. If they want a movie to commemorate the vets I'd choose When Trumpets Fade or even Band Of Brothers.

Yeah, When Trumpets Fade is a great film.....I have it on video, it's good that they don't overdo the heroism, it's still in the realistic zone, and I can't remember any part of the film that crosses into the hollywood zone.

[Slaggg]

Originally Posted by Innoxx

and the 20mm AA gun being carted around like a shopping cart

Thing is, that happened more often than not. The German Army during WW2 was woefully lacking in motorized transport. Together with air-superiority, the fact that the US and it's allies had such an extensive motor-pool is credited with their victory. Germany spent so much damn time/energy/resources developing the most effective and feared artillery (88s), tanks (Tiger's) and personnel weapons (STGs), they completely negelected the fact that these armaments and troops need to move around, quickly.

[Vance]

Originally Posted by Innoxx

What bugged me was the last battle in that town. This rag-tag group of guys were taking on thee Waffen SS, hitler's best. Yet the director portrayed them as a thrid rate peasant army. Running into machine gun, falling pray jackson, and the 20mm AA gun being carted around like a shopping cart.

Well, in BoB they were pretty weak against the 101st, so how do you think they would measure up to Rangers?

[Innoxx]

Originally Posted by Vance1

Well, in BoB they were pretty weak against the 101st, so how do you think they would measure up to Rangers?

It's hollywood. Trust me I've heard my share of Waffen SS stories. They are best.

[Innoxx]

Originally Posted by Slaggg

Thing is, that happened more often than not. The German Army during WW2 was woefully lacking in motorized transport. Together with air-superiority, the fact that the US and it's allies had such an extensive motor-pool is credited with their victory. Germany spent so much damn time/energy/resources developing the most effective and feared artillery (88s), tanks (Tiger's) and personnel weapons (STGs), they completely negelected the fact that these armaments and troops need to move around, quickly.

You know how hard it would be for three-four guys to push around a 1000lb gun in a ruined town?

[Vance]

Originally Posted by Innoxx

It's hollywood. Trust me I've heard my share of Waffen SS stories. They are best.

It was in the book, and it was comfiremed by Winters and more 101st vets.

[Innoxx]

Originally Posted by Vance1

It was in the book, and it was comfiremed by Winters and more 101st vets.

I dunno man. There's so many factors that affect the soldiers' performance. Morale, cohesion, hunger, artillery/air support, cover, leadership, supply, fatigue battle experience, and training. The Waffen SS training was very rigorous and at the height of the thrid reich's power they were the finest soldiers in the world. Well supplied, well armed, well trained and large in number. If you fought against the same group of guys in late '44 they would most likely be a pushover.

My grandad told me how crazy the WSS were on the eastern front. He told me how a group of about ten of them assaulted a Russian entrenchment dodging gunfire and artillery and didn't lose one guy. He told me that they counted over 90 russian bodies after that little engagement.

[Milla]

One thing that bugged me about when trumpets fade was they could of used a little bit more action, overall though its a great movie.

[Innoxx]

[quote="Capt. John Miller":7f79c]One thing that bugged me about when trumpets fade was they could of used a little bit more action, overall though its a great movie.[/quote:7f79c]

If you want action, watch Rambo. The daily life of a the soldier constitutes sitting on your ass 80% of the time.

[Milla]

[quote=Innoxx]

Originally Posted by "Capt. John Miller":e89f5

One thing that bugged me about when trumpets fade was they could of used a little bit more action, overall though its a great movie.

If you want action, watch Rambo. The daily life of a the soldier constitutes sitting on your ass 80% of the time.[/quote:e89f5]

did i say rambo action you stupid bastard? no i didnt, i said a LITTLE BIT more action, that bridge scene should of been like 5-10 mins longer.

[Innoxx]

[quote="Capt. John Miller":e949a][quote=Innoxx]

Originally Posted by "Capt. John Miller":e949a

One thing that bugged me about when trumpets fade was they could of used a little bit more action, overall though its a great movie.

If you want action, watch Rambo. The daily life of a the soldier constitutes sitting on your ass 80% of the time.[/quote:e949a]

did i say rambo action you stupid bastard? no i didnt, i said a LITTLE BIT more action, that bridge scene should of been like 5-10 mins longer.[/quote:e949a]

Easy Milla *pats him on the back while stealing his wallet* eaaaasy. It's a war movie. Not all of them have to be action packed. If you think you can do better let's see.

[snipeymagoo]

Originally Posted by Innoxx

It's way too inaccurate to portray ww2 veterans. Th opening beach scene was good but everything else was just too unrealistic. If they want a movie to commemorate the vets I'd choose When Trumpets Fade or even Band Of Brothers.

yeah, we all have an opinion, but when trumpets fade kicked ass.....BoB we all know is awesome, gotta love WW2 stuff

[ninty]

C'mon, are you guys telling me you watch SPR and those films to commerate the veterans? I don't think so. You watch them because you like them, they are entertaining. You do not watch a movie to commerate veterans. You go to ceremonies or maybe watch a documentary, but thats even pushing it.

Hollywood is not there to tell stories, they are there to make money. They make money through making entertaining movies which we all like to see. I doubt anyone in Hollywood has seriously ever said lets make a movie to commerate this person etc. and not thought about the amount of money it would make or how entertaining it would be.

[quote=Innoxx]

Originally Posted by Vance1

It was in the book, and it was comfiremed by Winters and more 101st vets.

I dunno man. There's so many factors that affect the soldiers' performance. Morale, cohesion, hunger, artillery/air support, cover, leadership, supply, fatigue battle experience, and training. The Waffen SS training was very rigorous and at the height of the thrid reich's power they were the finest soldiers in the world. Well supplied, well armed, well trained and large in number. If you fought against the same group of guys in late '44 they would most likely be a pushover.

My grandad told me how crazy the WSS were on the eastern front. He told me how a group of about ten of them assaulted a Russian entrenchment dodging gunfire and artillery and didn't lose one guy. He told me that they counted over 90 russian bodies after that little engagement.[/quote:bb2c3]
correct, and in BoB,there were more Americans, and in SPR, they had tanks (including 2 Tigers), about 50 infantry,etc. But they were all defeated by about 15 guys oOo:

Turner Classic Movies and American Movie Classics are showing war movies from different years.
They are showing WWII and Vietnam movies mostly but there might be a Korea one too.

Encore True Stories (digital cable) will be showing Patton and some other films that I can't remember just now.


TNT is acting gay and not showing war movies like they used to, so FUCK TNT!