[ApostleX3000]

That's funny, I've been playing every FPS since Wolf3d, and I think Half-Life was cartoonishly cheesy at best. I never really liked any mod for half-life compared to the UT stuff. I don't know why so many people are ga-ga over HL when UT beats it in just about every catagory. It's realism mods like Tac. Ops and Inf blow CS straight out of the water. UT has well over 5000 user created maps, and some are truely amazing works of art. The only thing that HL has that UT doesnt is a cheesy repititive SP storyline. I could live with out that anyday. Nevermind UT for a sec, and the best realism game by far is Operation Flashpoint. Don't even for minute try and sell CS as the "most real" game. That is just wrong, no, even worse...hogwash!