[ninty]

Its the only round that is allowed at all, peace time or wartime under the Geneva convention.

Although some countries/factions don't recgonize the geneva convention and use different rounds that will do numerous things to you.

[[MOD]Gen.WikiWeaponn]

On order to really understand the rifles you have to fire them both, I have never fired an m4, but i have fired an ak, and an ar-15, with server m4 parts on it.

The normal ak rounds are better than the normal ar rounds, but the hollow point ar rounds work MUCH better than the crappy russian hollowpint ak rounds.

the 5.56 is just as acccurate as the ak's 7.62, and almost never tumbles, it was simply propoganda told to the soldiers who ere given a smaller round and didn't want it.

The ak is also much simpler to clean, operate, and repair, but the ar is much better for pinpoint accuracy at longer ranges, as the recoil is so light that you can easily fire it off of your groin, provived you do not fire it on full-auto (ouch)

So all in all, I would have to go with the ak, but the armies that use it are often not as well trained as the us army, and no matter how powerful the weapon is, if you cannot hit anything with it, it means nothing.

[ED!]

Just anothe reason to hate whitey.

[Miscguy]

Ok this bullshit about nato 5.56 tumbling when it exits the barrel, what the fuck are you people smoking? If any round tumbled out of a barrel aside from a muzzel loaded non rifled weapon, no one in the world would fire it. The only point a 5.56 round tumbles is when it strikes a human target. On impact the round buzz saws and tumbles through the body producing etream internal wounds a target will likly survive from for a few days, then die from internal injurys if not properly treated. It is a very sound millitary tactic using the logic that it takes far more resources to care for a wounded soldier than it does one on the front lines. In this way your thining there front line resources, medical supplies, and other items. Its not so much to make 2 people have to carry him off the battelfield in a literal sense as it is a metafore for holding up there entire system.

Now what you may have heard about the 5.56 round and mistaken it for tumbling, is its arc. All projectiles have them no matter how fast they go. Higher the speed the flatter the arc, slower speed, more arc. In other words firing a 5.56 round at a traget 300m away takes proper prediction of the fall of the bullet. While firing a 7.62 round at that range means you wouldnt have to account for much bullet fall what so ever.

The 5.56 vs the 7.62 round debate was solved when even the russians went with a smaller higher velocity round. The 5.45mm round in the Ak-74 that was developed after the russinas say what the 5.56 had done in the m-16 in vietnam. Kalashnikov himself has spoke to the value of the smaller round.

[ninty]

Our C6 which fires 7.62 has almost no arc up to 600m.

[Miscguy]

US 240 7.62 has jack shit for arc at that same range. Its just the round size. Like i said. .50 cal will have near 0 arc at that range, so little you wouldnt even have to account for when firing. Hense why an Ak-47 sighting range is 800m, unlike the 300m sighting range for the m-16.

[ninty]

C6 = M240.

I think you guys just started using it though, didn't you? We've been using it for a while now.

[Zoner]

[quote="ED!":bb5bb]Just anothe reason to hate whitey.[/quote:bb5bb]

"Gonna git me a shotgun and kill all the whiteys I see!
Gonna git me a shotgun and kill all the whiteys I see...
And when I kill all the whiteys I see,
The white man he won't bother meeee!
Gonna git me a shotgun and kill all the whiteys I see!"

- Garrett Morris, SNL.

Classic. cool:

[wintersforge]

[quote="Sgt Stryker":0dbc0]being a fan of real rifle caliber I have to say the AK-47/AKM.

the AK-74 is waaaayyyy to light (in hitting power), the 5.56mm rifles are also underpowered (didn't some guy in Black Hawk Down (the book, not movie) have to shoot a Somali like 3-5 times to drop him?)[/quote:0dbc0]

i think that was because he was using teflon coated rounds