[Mr.Buttocks]

[quote="Old Reliable":3f454]I'll never believe in a stupid god, and live a happy free life away from that religious fervor and waste of time.[/quote:3f454]

then you will burn in hell and be buggered by the devil for all eternity. you better hope they got vaseline in hell.

[Old Reliable]

where does the devil live? how do i get there? no scientific explanation, its as reall as a sheep magically appearing next to me rolleyes:

[Drew]

[quote="Old Reliable":ea6d5]whats wrong with same sex marriages? it'll make us a more open society and accepting to other people.[/quote:ea6d5]

[quote="Old Reliable":ea6d5] ROFLMAO, i feel sorry for you people who believe in christianity...really..open your fucking eyes. you're wwasting your time praying for your sorry ass, it's never going to be answered, and if you believe so, you got some weird ass voices in your heads. I'll never believe in a stupid god, and live a happy free life away from that religious fervor and waste of time.[/quote:ea6d5]

I don't even need to say anything else.

[Old Reliable]

there's a difference between what is real and what is not real. religion is not real in my opinion so I don't see a need to accept it. what is real is the fact that someone has a sexual preference.

[Drew]

Oh okay. So it's okay to bash and be unaccepting of something that you don't perceive to be real. That's actually a great idea.

I don't believe that homosexuality is real, therefore none of you can bash me for being against the hypothetical situation where a "homosexual" would be married to another "homosexual."

GG you lose go home.

[Pvt.Pinhead]

But you dont understand, how do you think the world was formed? Yes by all these molcules and atoms crap, but what made the molecules and atoms? And what made those? And what made those? Did all this just appear out of no were? How is there infinity? Who wrote the Bible if God didnt? It would of had to have been a very smart person because most people then couldnt even spell, and then why take so much time in making something up?Who was Jesus? And yes there is phisical profe Jesus was alive, eather that or there was just a whole period of time on this Earth were everyone pretended there was and made the things such as the cross from which Jesus was crusified on AND THEY FOUND THE REMAINS!!!! How do you explain "Crying Statues"? And what do you think that for these millions of years something some dumbnut made up really explanded this long? No...its real its all real just open your heart not your eyes and believe!!!
Cmon, if you dont believe in him, then for 1 year, just 1 year, completely give yourself to God and see what happens. Go to church read the Bible, have you ever read the Bible? You would be absolutley amazed on how much it relates to the modern world!! Just try to believe in him, you will if you try and you will live a wonderful life!!! Now you say you already have one? Do you and your wife yell a lot? Do you have a low paying job? Could you have got a better one or had one you enjoyed more? Are you picked on at school?

Seriously THINK about those questions....and read the Bible wether you believe or not it answers a lot and helps you improve yourself.

[elitecloud]

who made GOD?

did he just poof iam here, howdy doodie lets make something?

i belive there's something out there, but i just can't put my finger on it....

if there was a god, how come bad things happen to good people?

babies dieing, 11 years olds getting kid napped , columbine, 9/11.....
fate? god wanted people to die by burning to death in jet fuel? talk about a vengful god. How many of the 9/11 people belived in Christianty? but to die like that....we are his children right, so why would he let us die such a horrible death... annoy:

[Chango]

[quote="Pvt.Pinhead":a8f6b]But you dont understand, how do you think the world was formed? Yes by all these molcules and atoms crap, but what made the molecules and atoms? And what made those? And what made those? Did all this just appear out of no were? How is there infinity?[/quote:a8f6b]

That could literally be anything, that's invalid as proof either way.


[quote="Pvt.Pinhead":a8f6b]Who wrote the Bible if God didnt? It would of had to have been a very smart person because most people then couldnt even spell, and then why take so much time in making something up?[/quote:a8f6b]

The bible was written by man not god, the old testament was passed down and adapted from hebrew scrolls and the new testament was written some years (at least 100) after christ's death by several different people that all had slightly different versions of the life of Christ (Mark, Matthew, Luke, John) that were adapted from stories passed down throughout the years.

And there were several languages and alphabets that many people knew (the greeks and egyptians for example,) but most likely a farmer or a herder didn't write it.

[quote="Pvt.Pinhead":a8f6b]Who was Jesus? And yes there is phisical profe Jesus was alive, eather that or there was just a whole period of time on this Earth were everyone pretended there was and made the things such as the cross from which Jesus was crusified on AND THEY FOUND THE REMAINS!!!![/quote:a8f6b]

Jesus could've been anyone, and do you have a link that shows that they found his remains? Or are you talking about the cloth that he was wrapped in after his death? (which is being bounced back and forth as a hoax or not)

And the Romans common practice of execution was crucifixion on a cross, so there's nothing significant about that. However the Catholic Church adapted the cross as it's symbol.

[quote="Pvt.Pinhead":a8f6b]How do you explain "Crying Statues"? And what do you think that for these millions of years something some dumbnut made up really explanded this long? No...its real its all real just open your heart not your eyes and believe!!! [/quote:a8f6b]

The crying statues could've been a hoax, unknown phenomenon, unusual weather or supernatural occurances, there has never been any definate proof that god really exists or doesn't exist.

And for these thousands of years (you do know that christ was supposed to be born 2000 years ago right?) religion has been controlled by those in power. Especially during the middle ages, when the church was extremely corrupt and being abused by both the kings and it's pope. Since its really easy to control masses for people when they have something or someone to believe in. The Japanese believed their emperor was a representation of god on Earth and would do anything to protect that belief (along with several other cultures.) The Muslim fanatics are a very recognizable example of abuse of faith in their religion. Even the Europeans believed that the kings were divinely chosen and put their faith in them while they continued to tax them into poverty. And from this abuse traditions were made and in the 2000 years it's become an expanded religion with multiple versions of the same basic idea.

[quote="Pvt.Pinhead":a8f6b]Cmon, if you dont believe in him, then for 1 year, just 1 year, completely give yourself to God and see what happens. Go to church read the Bible, have you ever read the Bible? You would be absolutley amazed on how much it relates to the modern world!! Just try to believe in him, you will if you try and you will live a wonderful life!!! Now you say you already have one? Do you and your wife yell a lot? Do you have a low paying job? Could you have got a better one or had one you enjoyed more? Are you picked on at school?

Seriously THINK about those questions....and read the Bible wether you believe or not it answers a lot and helps you improve yourself.[/quote:a8f6b]

Believing in the bible and god for one year isn't going to change anyones life completely around. Though your faith is truly admirable, I'm beginning to wonder whether you've actually read the bible yourself (unless you have a completely different version then I've grown up with)

And why are you so sure that your religion is the correct religion for all we know the greeks could've had it right all along, but it was falsely labelled as mythology.


And back on the original topic, homosexuality isn't going to going to lead to the downfall of america and certainly wont have a direct effect on your morals, just let them do what they want in the privacy of their own homes like any other american would want. You don't have to deal with them unless you choose to, don't force your own prejudice and beliefs on them just because you don't agree with it.

[Stinger_Dude]

Heres a good way to see if God really doesnt/does exist.

Kill yourself.

[General Cobra]

[quote="Stinger_Dude":4a2d1]Heres a good way to see if God really doesnt/does exist.

Kill yourself.[/quote:4a2d1]

You do that and get back to us.

[Zen]

Chango made some interesting points.

There are a few beliefs and theories that I woulld like to share on the subject of Spirtuallity.

1st off , I'm not a Christ follower. I began exploring the religions of the world several years ago now , and I decided that the Christ focused religions are not true to themselves and were not for me.

Now I LOVE Archaeology. And Pinhead is right about a few things.

They have used the bible as a guide to discover several Bible related sites and artifacts.

To include , Sadam & Gamora , The real Mt.Sinia , Noahs Flood , and countless cities that were not suposed to have even existed in the non-biblical world.

But the bible is NOT a direct historical map , it is not designed to be. Many of the stories , places and events do not exist or have been included as a moral lesson , not historical fact.

Now personally I do believe Jesus was on this earth and did the things that his is famous for.
However I do not believe he was the son of a god.

All we have are the writtings of those around him , and as Chango pointed out , those have been edited for content and translated through several languages by people who were not there.

Personally , I believe that the Vatican has some of the awnsers to the mysteries that surround His life and the truth of the bible.

But I do not think that we will ever see it. I believe it is hidden because it will cause un-repairable damage to the church as a state.

Jesus did not want us to confess to a priest , worship in a building , or look anywhere outside ourselves for " God " . We are to look within.

As far as crying statues and images appearing on walls:

One man would say : " I see the virgin mother on the wall ! "

But the next would say : " Wait , I see a Hotdog with Chilli..."

These are certainly objects of perception. But , there is so much that is not understood that it does diserve our attention.

I really enjoy seeing these stories and events covered by a non-relgious sorce.
The Vatican investigates thousands of " miracles " every year. They ALWAYS say it is a hoax , nothiing more to see folks....

And of corse , One Year will not change a persons views on their spirtuallity.

Each person must make there path and follow it.
The truth is inside of us. Search yourself for awnsers.
I chose Buddism because there is no god to pray to , there is no sin , there is no church , or certain understnding one must have.
All you need is you. All answers are there waiting for you to understand.

[Pyro]

give it a break

There is not enough proof to prove if God exists or doesn't exist.

By saying homosexuality isn'r real...it's like saying being sad, tired, bored, and other emotions humans can feel are not real either. Feeling attracted to guys must be a real thing.

[Pvt.Pinhead]

[quote="[22nd Elite] Cloud":d1699]who made GOD?

did he just poof iam here, howdy doodie lets make something?

i belive there's something out there, but i just can't put my finger on it....

if there was a god, how come bad things happen to good people?

babies dieing, 11 years olds getting kid napped , columbine, 9/11.....
fate? god wanted people to die by burning to death in jet fuel? talk about a vengful god. How many of the 9/11 people belived in Christianty? but to die like that....we are his children right, so why would he let us die such a horrible death... annoy:[/quote:d1699]

Like I said God gave us free will, we chose what path we take.

[quote:d1699]
Heres a good way to see if God really doesnt/does exist.

Kill yourself. [/quote:d1699]

Well if you did you would go to Hell and you wouldnt see God....



[quote:d1699]Believing in the bible and god for one year isn't going to change anyones life completely around. Though your faith is truly admirable, I'm beginning to wonder whether you've actually read the bible yourself (unless you have a completely different version then I've grown up with)
[/quote:d1699]

Yes I am probaly growing up with a different Bible, my Mom is Lutheran, my Dad is Cathlic, and Im Baptist so all this stuff is all getting mixed together and Im reading a wierd version of the Bible which is like a cross of all Christian beliefs. But no I have not yet finished it.

[Eight Ace]

Originally Posted by Pyro

Feeling attracted to guys must be a real thing.

*...notices Pyro totally checking out Buckweed...* hake:

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