First official *Christian* review of MOHAA! - Page 2

poseyj · 02-12-2002, 04:12 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sh3ll_Sh0ck:
If heaven really is full of flufly white clouds and what not then it doesn't sound like a place for me to spend eternity.

Unfortunately, my version of heaven is very very sinfull indeed.

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you believe what you see on TV is what heaven is like? we can't possibly imagine what heaven will be like, but its better then anything the human mind could ever conceive as good. trust me its not full of white clouds, its not even around earth.
just imagine the best time you've ever had and multiply it by 15053325 times, and then make it pure. thats kinda what heaven will be like

Sh3ll_Sh0ck · 02-12-2002, 04:19 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by poseyj:
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just imagine the best time you've ever had and multiply it by 15053325 times<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Eheheheheeh
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and then make it pure<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Oh..

The Bishop · 02-12-2002, 04:20 AM

Ugh. I'm outta this thread cuz I'm tired of people quoting the bible when scholars are finally admitting that the bible has been added to, rewritten, edited, you name it, it's been done. Why wasn't the Nag Hammadi, Pistus Sophia or Dead Sea Scrolls in the bible? Why were the canonical gospels the only ones included in the NT? Because over the years the people at the top had to sell their product (religion)... Even the top dog (Pope) has done lovely documented evils throughout the ages, and yet he talks directly to God. sha.

Answer this: God created all, correct? So is he good or evil? Most would say good because he created goodness... but he also created all of the evil. Just think.... rape, poverty, murder... all of those things were originally created by God just as much as love, devotion, honor and courage. I would think God is neutral, judging by what we know. I would think all of the peoples that were smitten "in his name" would agree over the ages...

Out--

-Bish

retrac2w · 02-12-2002, 04:20 AM

ok

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Stony · 02-12-2002, 04:24 AM

Do modern Christians understand that they're interpreting a book that hasn't changed since the Middle Ages? I mean they're still thinking that Jesus is to be some kind of feudal Lord presiding over a kingdom and we are all his serfs living just to serve him. They forget that many teachings of The Bible were deliberately distorted or omitted during that time mainly as a way to ensure social order and to command obedience to the Catholic Church.

If we were to read the ORIGINAL teachings that were included in The Bible it would be totally unrecognizable to most people.

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The Bishop · 02-12-2002, 04:39 AM

Ok I lied. I'm here anyway. Stony, I would say you're right. . . think about it. The old testament was the Jewish portion, and so it has the laws, rules, etc and the history, yadda yadda of their people. It also makes satan more of a general adversary to their continued progress as a people. The new testament makes satan a real entity, and the writers of this portion realized they were talking to a different crowd, and needed to show their front man (jesus) as a miracle performing guru type.

Another interesting thing is that he is referred to as "Rabbi" ... and nothing was mentioned anywhere about his wife. I have read in many historical biblical writings that point out that all Jewish rabbis had a wife... it seems in quite a few places that Mary Magdalen is very close to jesus, and in the surviving documents that were not included in the NT, it lends to the fact that jesus was an ordinary married rabbi, with an extraordinary claim.

Another by the by is that the Jewish prophecy of the Messiah says that he will come from the line of David, whereas christians will say that he is the direct son of God. whoops. the old testament does NOT agree with the new, and to top it off, when two of the new testament gospels attempt to trace the lineage back thru Joseph to get to david (and satisfy the Jewish prophecy) they don't agree. Lovely.

I wish I could tell the editors of the bible over the ages to have made a more fun work of fiction. sheesh.

God is real, all else has been human-added fluff.

-Bish

Apollo · 02-12-2002, 05:14 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I'm outta this thread cuz I'm tired of people quoting the bible when scholars are finally admitting that the bible has been added to, rewritten, edited, you name it, it's been done. Why wasn't the Nag Hammadi, Pistus Sophia or Dead Sea Scrolls in the bible? Why were the canonical gospels the only ones included in the NT?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Bible is the inspired word of God, nothing else.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Answer this: God created all, correct? So is he good or evil? Most would say good because he created goodness... but he also created all of the evil. Just think.... rape, poverty, murder... all of those things were originally created by God just as much as love, devotion, honor and courage. I would think God is neutral, judging by what we know. I would think all of the peoples that were smitten "in his name" would agree over the ages...
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God DID NOT create evil. Lucifer chose that direction. Adam chose that direction. Adam brought sin into man's life. Man chose his destiny. Hell was not created for man, it was created for Satan and his followers.

Apollo · 02-12-2002, 05:19 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>jesus was an ordinary married rabbi, with an extraordinary claim.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Heh, ok... Ordinary, eh? You're ordinary aren't you? Then lets see you lead a perfect life. Lets see you rise people from the dead, heal leapers, make blind see, make lame walk, and save many, many, MANY people from the depths of Hell.

[ + ]COL. KILGORE · 02-12-2002, 05:36 AM

Uh, just a correction. Hitler did not invent the swastika. It is a symbol that has existed long before the Third Reich and was admired by Hitler when he was in his youth. Later, when his political party was established, he chose the swastika because he believed a symbol would greatly aid the party.

ccgr · 02-12-2002, 06:19 AM

Hey guys it's a girl that runs the site. That would explain why they take offense at female characters being treated as sex objects. Kinda makes sense now doesn't it?

Albert Einstein · 02-12-2002, 06:47 AM

No offense, but most of you guys here can be quite clueless. You talk trash about things you don't know jack about. And you can't even understand what someone writes. He was saying that the game is not supposed to be a history lesson, so it didn't need the swastikas.

I can understand disliking Christians, since most people who claim to be Christian are not. Some even have a "holier than thou" attitude while doing nasty things to others, which makes others hate "Christians." So it is not Christians you dislike, but those who falsely claim to be.

People think they are Christian just because they say they are. But there are requirements. If I say I am a painter, does that make me a painter? Or do I actually need to paint? A Christian is someone who follows Christ. So ask yourself if you follow Christ. Do you do what he did or even believe what he believed and taught? "No, but I'm still a Christian." Yeah, right. Anyone can write a review claiming to be a Christian review, but is it?

Just for the record, if you read the Bible you'll find that Jesus and his closest followers taught: don't forbid priests from marrying, don't forbid eating of meat on certain days, most people won't go to heaven but will eventually be brought back to life on earth, all Christ's followers have to try to teach others his teachings, Jesus was not the Almighty God but was inferior to him, etc. Go look it up. Then ask if the major "Christian" religions teach all of this.

As far as all denominations needing to update their views on the world, that may be true, but maybe not in the way you think. If they claim to be Christian, then yes, they should update them to what Jesus taught. Updating them beyond that, to 'newer' or 'more modern' ideas is up to them. But then they really shouldn't call themselves Christians anymore.

[Roach][Knuts] · 02-12-2002, 06:47 AM

do you run the site? (to ccgr)

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ccgr · 02-12-2002, 06:52 AM

Yeah my nick gave it away, DOH! I write most of the reviews, but I have some there from guys too.

ccgr · 02-12-2002, 06:56 AM

Albert Einstein,

Thanks for the back up. I agree that there are many hypocrites out there. On the flip side, there are many great atheists as well. I agree with what you say for the most part. I am afraid I don't follow on the coming back to earth
"most people won't go to heaven but will eventually be brought back to life on earth"
The bible mentions that you live but once. There's no reincarnation in the bible.

Albert Einstein · 02-12-2002, 07:12 AM

Also, about being sons of God: If you had 1 "real" son who was conceived by you and your wife, and 4 million sons whom you adopted, how many of your sons would have your genetic traits?

Whether you believe in the Bible or not, here is what it says on that. The Bible says that God created Adam as a perfect human who would never have to die, and so would never go to heaven but live on earth. He already had angels for heaven, and he made humans for the earth. Humans were not made to be independent from God, but actually NEED to obey him and receive life from him. Because Adam disobeyed God, he became imperfect, tainted, and would eventually die. Since all of his children were concieved after that, they were all imperfect too. It's what we now call genetics.

So God caused Mary to conceive Jesus, a perfect son with his father's traits. Later Jesus, by dying without ever sinning, was able to balance the scales of justice that Adam unbalanced, paying the price of 1 perfect life so that all imperfect humans wouldn't have to die forever. Even 60 billion imperfect adopted sons would never balance the scale that 1 perfect son could. Jesus' death made it possible for the imperfect sons of Adam (all humans) to become adopted sons of God by obeying him. By doing so, they can receive an inheritance of a promised land, an earth restored to its original state before sin, death, pain, cruelty, etc.

You don't have to believe it's true, but it's what the Bible says. In fact, that's what the whole Bible is about, in a nutshell. How's that for a cliff note?