First official *Christian* review of MOHAA! - Page 4

ccgr · 02-12-2002, 10:43 AM

I bet you do. Sorry. I am assuming they have RTCW there? Or did they ban it outright?

02-12-2002, 11:24 AM

"Another thing that was good to see was that even though you are fighting the Germans in World War II, you don't see any swastikas or other symbols from that time period."

No swastikas in the game? How much of it did these guys play?

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Oddball · 02-12-2002, 11:32 AM

We need another reformation, all denominations need to change their views on the modern world

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More negative waves Moriartii! Have a litte faith baby, have a little faith.

Skidrowpunk · 02-12-2002, 11:43 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by BallisticWookie:
Any good looking chick wearing nothing more than leather underwear has my undivided attention. I happen to like half naked women prancing around in underwear.
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OO YEAH BROTHER!!!

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Captain Bunny · 02-13-2002, 12:06 AM

I don't beleive in god, i never have, i even asked to get notes from my parents to get out going to church at school (seriously)
All the noahs ark and little donky stuff to sugar coat religion to make it easy for kiddies to learn didnt cut butter with me.
I've never sinned, ive never sinned because ive never swore myself to not do what religous people would class as sins. To me, if crimes are commited, justice will be seen in a courtroom not at pearly gates.
When i die, that will be the end of me, i'll be cremated and have my ashes scattered in the highlands of scotland. I won't live on as a spirit, i will live on in my kids if i have any, my genes.
I dont care about religous people in what they beleive, its their choice and im not here to change them. I do object to some things about religion though.
I dont like when religious people try and change me. Come knocking at my door telling me jesus loves me, isnt going to cheer me up or make my day, it pisses me off. if i cared about it, i would go to church, and even if there were a god, i highly doubt he would want people interupting other peoples days just to talk about him.
But whats happened in the first place? why has it even reached a time where people have to go around and "spread gods word". Times have changed, people have changed, and i empahasise it again, times have changed!.
There are some things religously written that bother me though, now i stress, i dont beleive this stuff, and i am writing about them as in "if i thought it really happened" terms.
first being, noahs ark, yeah it may be a story, but in real life, even if it did rain for like 40 days, there is not enough water volume on earth to flood the world, everyone knows the water cycle of evaporation, condensation and then rain. But, yeah, only a story, but turning round to your children and saying god did that.....when it is a story.....is technically a lie, and a lie is classed as a sin is it not?
The mary and joseph thing, god technically raped mary, making her pregnant when she never asked. are we expected to think thats a good thing that she will have the son of god. Im sorry, but if i were joseph i would be marching straight down to the jerry springer studio with a story like that.
As for jesus' execution, there may well have been a guy called jesus who people admired, but the romans would not of executed him as he claimed to be the son of god, but because he was becoming a political threat. jesus would of been like any president or prime minister of today. and just several us president.....he was killed because people disagreed with him. thats my way of looking at it.

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I can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing I ain't pretty and my legs are thin. But don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to.

The Bishop · 02-13-2002, 12:13 AM

Capt. Bunny, you have to remember that in biblical times, christianity was competing as a religion (like ABC, CBS and NBC here in the states compete) for followers... As they were ruled by Rome for much of the time, their direct competition was the polytheistic beliefs of the Roman gods, and if you recall, Jupiter/Zeus and the other gods would regularly impregnate common women and their offspring would be part god. There are many demi-gods in Roman mythology that have this claim to fame. It wasn't rape, it was keeping up with the Joneses, in this case, the Romans, nothing more. My god is better than your gods, because SEE! he can do this, and he did that, and thus and thus. bigger and better each and every time.

having said that, I would still propose that there is an omnipotent being of sorts, but that it is neither good nor evil but more neutral in its stance and that it obeys the laws of science (both known and unknown to us) that we do... of course, i know about as much as the christians do, and have as much proof.

-Bish

krazyklown · 02-13-2002, 12:37 AM

Jesus was a Buddhist. When Jesus was a teenager(Omitted from the bible) he traveled to India and learned buddhism, particulary meditation - saw this on the History channel, and it makes sense.

It is possible that Jesus could have healed the sick. Th Human mind is capable of so much that if we all learned to use it, it would literally shock existence into another plain...

Remeber the story of Jesus in the desert for forty days n nights...he was meditating, getting into his sub-conscious. The snake that came upon Jesus was only a figure of his imagination: right and wrong, good vs evil, etc. Jesus always told people that they can do just as him. When he refers himself as the son of god, he means he is the son of existence - life - not a figure in the sky. Jesus was a good person who tried to better the world, unfortunatly, his image and teachings were distorted. Just my 2 cents on this...

The Bishop · 02-13-2002, 12:48 AM

Actually, I think that the buddhist theory might be wrong, as is the History channel. The Nag Hammadi texts do mention (as does the Gnostic Gospels in the Gospel of Thomas) that during his teen / young adult years Jesus was in Egypt and goes into alot of detail on things that very nearly coincide with buddhism, but are very much Egyptian in birth. Also, Egypt seems to have been in focus (for the jews, jesus and his parents) throughout the bible... i would think they omitted the non-following the christian lifestyle, but left in other parts, making it read and feel (and seem) incomplete...

-Bish

BlackRanger3D · 02-13-2002, 02:08 AM

Bis Can you e-mail me, or post some sources that you took your research from.

I am a devote christian (trying to be anyway, bad things are so much fun). But I too (based only on logic, and the fact that men are greed and evil) doubt the 100% authenticity of the bible. Over the last few hundred years it would have been easy to alter the bible in small ways.

Did you ever see Stigmata, it raised interesting point. Are they based in fact?

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Captain Bunny · 02-13-2002, 02:31 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by The Bishop:
Capt. Bunny, you have to remember that in biblical times,
-Bish<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I don't remember biblical times, I wasn't there, where you?

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I can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing I ain't pretty and my legs are thin. But don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to.

The Bishop · 02-13-2002, 02:32 AM

Well, Stigmata is VERY VERY loosely based on the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas. The passages briefly quoted are like the 70ish verse (going from memory, kinda foggy heh)...

As I'm at work (2:30 here in Phx) I can reply to this when I get home tonight. I have many good books, and even more actual research based on what documents are available for study.

I, too, was a devout Christian, but readily see how men truly are, and used logic and common sense to look paste that which was forced into my brain from a very early age... trust me, it is HARD to look past the dogma of what religion has made into 'historical fact' .... remember that what the bible says is NOT corraborated ANYWHERE else, save the old testiment and the Jewish documents... the dead sea scrolls, Pistus Sophia, Gnostic Gospels and Nag Hammadi do agree in many areas, but you can see where the bible has been edited/ changed/what-not and the originals have not, and they are almost pagan in thought in some places... pretty cool

having said all this, I still believe in The Creator, just not all nice or ruled-out like people would believe. I just don't buy the little intricacies that each branch of christianity would have you act out in order to make it to the top. And I think there is Karma, as set out by The Creator -- and it's nore immediate than "at the pearly gates" ...

-Bish

The Bishop · 02-13-2002, 02:36 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Captain Bunny:

Well I don't remember biblical times, I wasn't there, where you?

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I am assuming you're being facetious in this question, as it understood to mean "current accepted research has shown that..." thus the reference to remember, not that I was there.

And the "where you?" portion... did you mean to say "were you?" or "where were you?" ... I'm trying to see if you have bad grammar or poor spelling... which is it?

-Bish

Shoegaze99 · 02-13-2002, 02:49 AM

Hey moderators ...

... of all the threads you throw into the off-topic forum, you leave *this* one here?

This thread is hopelessly off-topic. You guys are usually better than this.

The Bishop · 02-13-2002, 02:52 AM

Very true... it started as a thread on reviews for MOHAA, and has devolved into biblical farce. lovely. MOVE MOVE MOVE

-Bish

sychodawg · 02-13-2002, 02:54 AM

Almost ALL Of The prophecies the bible has in it... but a few more are about to come true... like the revised roman empire. That goes to show that the bible is not false. I dont want to judge anyones religion because i have no right, also you guys have no right to criticise us.

One more thing... Always Remember this... "GOD BLESS THOSE WHO BLESS ISREAL"