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Default 05-11-2004, 09:19 PM

yeah, this is the iowa national guard--i know youd hear a different story from the marines in falluja and ramadi, or the 101st whos been there since before the war. how about the 82nd thats been home 2 months in the last three years--they might see it a different way
  
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Default 05-11-2004, 09:21 PM

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i didnt read it cause i could care less about him ...


on a side note : i hope they capture his ass and make him crawl around on all fours, naked, barking like a dog.
Your a sick idiot, maybe this will happen to you. annoy:[/quote:afa74]


i doubt it ... i d be in canada if they ever tried to force me to serve ... id NEVER join on my own free will ...


ps : an eye for an eye.
  
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i didnt read it cause i could care less about him ...


on a side note : i hope they capture his ass and make him crawl around on all fours, naked, barking like a dog.
Your a sick idiot, maybe this will happen to you. annoy:

i doubt it ... i d be in canada if they ever tried to force me to serve ... id NEVER join on my own free will ...


ps : an eye for an eye.[/quote:e53db]

Would you draw us pretty pictures up here in Canada ? we will give you citizenship if you do beer:
  
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Default 05-11-2004, 09:29 PM

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You know Corporate America made/distributes photoshop? Probably your shoes, TV, etc etc.

Unless you live in a tent in the middle of the woods, your sig is a failed attempt at being cool.
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The kool kids do all the drugs ferich, then tell everyone on the intranet about it. Ferich you know that good buddy. beer:

If i need to be more selective in what i target with my sigs then maybe...Not all corporations are "bad" its the ones that pedal money into the government influence foreigns affairs, like Shell in Niger Responsible for alot of crap their. What should my sig say Death "name all bad corporations here", it's a general broad statement.[/quote:6458f]

I was just making a point, no need to flaunt your ignorance again. You don't know me, so stop making assumptions about my personal life. I do not try to impress people with my small addiction, but it's the only thing you know about me, so you think it's what I'm all about. That's where you're wrong.

The fact is, I don't know why there's bad blood between us, I used to think you were an okay guy. Then you started calling me a crackhead.
  
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fuck doesnt look like may 11th is gonna happen ferich...
  
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Default 05-11-2004, 09:47 PM

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i didnt read it cause i could care less about him ...


on a side note : i hope they capture his ass and make him crawl around on all fours, naked, barking like a dog.
Your a sick idiot, maybe this will happen to you. annoy:

i doubt it ... i d be in canada if they ever tried to force me to serve ... id NEVER join on my own free will ...


ps : an eye for an eye.[/quote:0fde7]

Fuck you, coward.

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so are you 100 % sure this is real ???? not some scasm... i would love to show this to my philosphy teachers and religion teachers. It would make them drop dead.
ha your social study's teachers are raging liberals too? i wouldnt dispute the validity of these facts, but what it fails to mention is that all of this shit was paid for by the us tax payer to the sum of 25 billion dollars....and for what? bringing "democracy" to iraq? at first i thought we would at least be getting something out of this endevure....like exclusive trade rights with iraqi oil companies or something, but no....we get 25 billion dollars to add to the already large defecit thats making the interest rates on my student loans high as fuck, and a bunch of dead soldiers, and tortured iraqi prisoners. we got ourselves into this shit and we cant just turn tail and leave now, but damnit we need to do something different. I read an interesting article in the paper today about new strategies for dealing with iraq, the one that caught my eye as the best solution was to dramaticly reduce the us presense in the country to something like what we have in afganistan....where our guys arent walking around patroling the streets of cities and getting shot in the back, they stay stationed in the countryside and act on intellegince against resistors, there supporters, and there strongholds and are ready to respond to any crisis that happens in the cities, if the need arises-granted afghanistan is still an unsetelled country today.[/quote:5ad5d]

You just can't leave, now that you have fucked u p the nestb you gotta fix it up.[/quote:5ad5d]

i didnt say "leave" i said reduce the number of us soldiers there, i think things will start to get better once we have set up a legitamate iraqi goverment. but do i think all of this shit was worth it, just to give iraqis freedom? hell no....we're getting the short end of the stick here, we need to take something from iraq, make them help pay us back the 25 billion we gave them.
  
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Default 05-11-2004, 09:52 PM

[quote="Zap. USMC":b0176][quote=Judas]
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i didnt read it cause i could care less about him ...


on a side note : i hope they capture his ass and make him crawl around on all fours, naked, barking like a dog.
Your a sick idiot, maybe this will happen to you. annoy:

i doubt it ... i d be in canada if they ever tried to force me to serve ... id NEVER join on my own free will ...


ps : an eye for an eye.[/quote:b0176]

Fuck you, coward.

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i didnt read it cause i could care less about him ...


on a side note : i hope they capture his ass and make him crawl around on all fours, naked, barking like a dog.
Your a sick idiot, maybe this will happen to you. annoy:

i doubt it ... i d be in canada if they ever tried to force me to serve ... id NEVER join on my own free will ...


ps : an eye for an eye.
Fuck you, coward.

annoy:[/quote:1cb6c]


Some people don't like killing.[/quote:1cb6c]

then they arent much of a man....any other time period they would long be dead or made into a slave...which is worse then death.
  
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Wow.
  
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You know Corporate America made/distributes photoshop? Probably your shoes, TV, etc etc.

Unless you live in a tent in the middle of the woods, your sig is a failed attempt at being cool.
"I may be a slave to this shit but I ain't afraid of it"
'SweatShopUnion'

The kool kids do all the drugs ferich, then tell everyone on the intranet about it. Ferich you know that good buddy. beer:

If i need to be more selective in what i target with my sigs then maybe...Not all corporations are "bad" its the ones that pedal money into the government influence foreigns affairs, like Shell in Niger Responsible for alot of crap their. What should my sig say Death "name all bad corporations here", it's a general broad statement.
I was just making a point, no need to flaunt your ignorance again. You don't know me, so stop making assumptions about my personal life. I do not try to impress people with my small addiction, but it's the only thing you know about me, so you think it's what I'm all about. That's where you're wrong.

The fact is, I don't know why there's bad blood between us, I used to think you were an okay guy. Then you started calling me a crackhead.[/quote:dcdd0]

Ferich's right, Short Hand - You've been a real fucking prick lately. Need to pull your head in.
  
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Default 05-11-2004, 10:29 PM

oook then lets kall some sort of truce. I beleive it all started with a peice back at vc.net, Inoxx flamed hella outta of a Digiality peice I had (Received soem great comments at Deviant), then all of a sudden he shut it down I think you joined in on the fest, I felt the peice wasn't being properly given a chance, more insults were being thrown toward the fact I was using grunge and grunge was trendy or something. Old news I guess, All in the past. Ill leave it their from now on.
  
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Default 05-11-2004, 10:32 PM

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yeah, this is the iowa national guard--i know youd hear a different story from the marines in falluja and ramadi, or the 101st whos been there since before the war. how about the 82nd thats been home 2 months in the last three years--they might see it a different way
Are all of you ignorant, media-guzzling fucks or what? I'm so God damned sick and tired of all the people who bash Bush and the war and whatever else just because bullshit Progressive Liberalism is the cool thing to follow right now.

First of all, I grew up in the Norfolk, VA area, home to the largest naval base in the world. I lived there for eight years until I moved to Myrtle Beach a few years ago. Needless to say, many of my friends ended up joining one branch of the Armed Forces or another. I keep in contact with all of them via e-mail and I have yet to hear any of them repeat all the negative bullshit from the media.

And I'm not talking about reservists. I'm talking about a Lance Corporal in the Marines whose job it is to run ammo from the trucks to the front line infantry. I'm talking about a Lieutenant who is a helicopter pilot for the SEALs and has been doing hostile drops since before major combat was officially declared. I'm talking about a Private who is a radio repairman for the Army and a PFC with a front-line Engineering Division.

Yes, all of them want to come home. Some of them are scared. All of them miss their family and friends. But they also all agree that what we see here at home is total bullshit. The majority of the country is doing better than it ever has. Education and economic prosperity are reaching unprecedented levels. But the media is too locked on the obvious strife in the larger cities where it's easier for militants to cause chaos.

Irregardless of whether you feel we went for the right reason, it's time to think differently. Do we want this to be the Vietnam of our generation? Already the Progressive Liberal fuckheads are harassing soldiers returning from battle. The same men and women who followed orders and put their life on the line in the defense of freedom and democracy. And maybe you don't believe that we went there for those reasons, but those soldiers fought with that belief in their minds, and it isn't fair to withdraw our support now.

And whoever it was that asked if it was worth the deaths of hundreds of Americans: What the fuck is wrong with you? This is something I hear echoed constantly by Liberals, which is probably the absolute pinnacle of their hypocracy. The very same people who scream and whine about the equality of different races and cultures, who sue the shit out of anyone who even thinks about allowing something so petty as nationality affect their judgement, are the very same ones who are implying that American lives are somehow more valuable than the lives of any other human being on this planet. Yes, hundreds of Americans died. But let's ignore the fact that during the last two decades, Sadaam Hussein was personally responsible for the deaths of 2 million human beings. That's an average of 100,000 people murdered each year, most of them simply for following the Shi'ite sect of Islam or for being born of the Kurd ethnicity.

Death is rarely justifiable, and I'd venture to say that it is very rarely worth it. But in this case, the sacrafices of the brave few will end in the liberation of the great many. So before you repeat what the media spoon feeds to you, try talking to a soldier. Try talking to an Iraqi. Go get the reels of footage from the CNN vaults of the Iraqis talking about how much better their lives are, that you'll never see because optimism never makes good television.

I'm sure the flames will begin shortly, they always do. So I'll pre-empt and say this:

Fuck Liberals. fire2:



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Default 05-11-2004, 10:35 PM

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yeah, this is the iowa national guard--i know youd hear a different story from the marines in falluja and ramadi, or the 101st whos been there since before the war. how about the 82nd thats been home 2 months in the last three years--they might see it a different way
Are all of you ignorant, media-guzzling fucks or what? I'm so God damned sick and tired of all the people who bash Bush and the war and whatever else just because bullshit Progressive Liberalism is the cool thing to follow right now.

First of all, I grew up in the Norfolk, VA area, home to the largest naval base in the world. I lived there for eight years until I moved to Myrtle Beach a few years ago. Needless to say, many of my friends ended up joining one branch of the Armed Forces or another. I keep in contact with all of them via e-mail and I have yet to hear any of them repeat all the negative bullshit from the media.

And I'm not talking about reservists. I'm talking about a Lance Corporal in the Marines whose job it is to run ammo from the trucks to the front line infantry. I'm talking about a Lieutenant who is a helicopter pilot for the SEALs and has been doing hostile drops since before major combat was officially declared. I'm talking about a Private who is a radio repairman for the Army and a PFC with a front-line Engineering Division.

Yes, all of them want to come home. Some of them are scared. All of them miss their family and friends. But they also all agree that what we see here at home is total bullshit. The majority of the country is doing better than it ever has. Education and economic prosperity are reaching unprecedented levels. But the media is too locked on the obvious strife in the larger cities where it's easier for militants to cause chaos.

Irregardless of whether you feel we went for the right reason, it's time to think differently. Do we want this to be the Vietnam of our generation? Already the Progressive Liberal fuckheads are harassing soldiers returning from battle. The same men and women who followed orders and put their life on the line in the defense of freedom and democracy. And maybe you don't believe that we went there for those reasons, but those soldiers fought with that belief in their minds, and it isn't fair to withdraw our support now.

And whoever it was that asked if it was worth the deaths of hundreds of Americans: What the fuck is wrong with you? This is something I hear echoed constantly by Liberals, which is probably the absolute pinnacle of their hypocracy. The very same people who scream and whine about the equality of different races and cultures, who sue the shit out of anyone who even thinks about allowing something so petty as nationality affect their judgement, are the very same ones who are implying that American lives are somehow more valuable than the lives of any other human being on this planet. Yes, hundreds of Americans died. But let's ignore the fact that during the last two decades, Sadaam Hussein was personally responsible for the deaths of 2 million human beings. That's an average of 100,000 people murdered each year, most of them simply for following the Shi'ite sect of Islam or for being born of the Kurd ethnicity.

Death is rarely justifiable, and I'd venture to say that it is very rarely worth it. But in this case, the sacrafices of the brave few will end in the liberation of the great many. So before you repeat what the media spoon feeds to you, try talking to a soldier. Try talking to an Iraqi. Go get the reels of footage from the CNN vaults of the Iraqis talking about how much better their lives are, that you'll never see because optimism never makes good television.

I'm sure the flames will begin shortly, they always do. So I'll pre-empt and say this:

Fuck Liberals. fire2:
I have heard similar thoughts from vets of Vietnam. oOo:
  
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Default 05-11-2004, 10:36 PM

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yeah, this is the iowa national guard--i know youd hear a different story from the marines in falluja and ramadi, or the 101st whos been there since before the war. how about the 82nd thats been home 2 months in the last three years--they might see it a different way
Are all of you ignorant, media-guzzling fucks or what? I'm so God damned sick and tired of all the people who bash Bush and the war and whatever else just because bullshit Progressive Liberalism is the cool thing to follow right now.

First of all, I grew up in the Norfolk, VA area, home to the largest naval base in the world. I lived there for eight years until I moved to Myrtle Beach a few years ago. Needless to say, many of my friends ended up joining one branch of the Armed Forces or another. I keep in contact with all of them via e-mail and I have yet to hear any of them repeat all the negative bullshit from the media.

And I'm not talking about reservists. I'm talking about a Lance Corporal in the Marines whose job it is to run ammo from the trucks to the front line infantry. I'm talking about a Lieutenant who is a helicopter pilot for the SEALs and has been doing hostile drops since before major combat was officially declared. I'm talking about a Private who is a radio repairman for the Army and a PFC with a front-line Engineering Division.

Yes, all of them want to come home. Some of them are scared. All of them miss their family and friends. But they also all agree that what we see here at home is total bullshit. The majority of the country is doing better than it ever has. Education and economic prosperity are reaching unprecedented levels. But the media is too locked on the obvious strife in the larger cities where it's easier for militants to cause chaos.

Irregardless of whether you feel we went for the right reason, it's time to think differently. Do we want this to be the Vietnam of our generation? Already the Progressive Liberal fuckheads are harassing soldiers returning from battle. The same men and women who followed orders and put their life on the line in the defense of freedom and democracy. And maybe you don't believe that we went there for those reasons, but those soldiers fought with that belief in their minds, and it isn't fair to withdraw our support now.

And whoever it was that asked if it was worth the deaths of hundreds of Americans: What the fuck is wrong with you? This is something I hear echoed constantly by Liberals, which is probably the absolute pinnacle of their hypocracy. The very same people who scream and whine about the equality of different races and cultures, who sue the shit out of anyone who even thinks about allowing something so petty as nationality affect their judgement, are the very same ones who are implying that American lives are somehow more valuable than the lives of any other human being on this planet. Yes, hundreds of Americans died. But let's ignore the fact that during the last two decades, Sadaam Hussein was personally responsible for the deaths of 2 million human beings. That's an average of 100,000 people murdered each year, most of them simply for following the Shi'ite sect of Islam or for being born of the Kurd ethnicity.

Death is rarely justifiable, and I'd venture to say that it is very rarely worth it. But in this case, the sacrafices of the brave few will end in the liberation of the great many. So before you repeat what the media spoon feeds to you, try talking to a soldier. Try talking to an Iraqi. Go get the reels of footage from the CNN vaults of the Iraqis talking about how much better their lives are, that you'll never see because optimism never makes good television.

I'm sure the flames will begin shortly, they always do. So I'll pre-empt and say this:

Fuck Liberals. fire2:
wow noc...wow. Im a liberal , but I supported the war in Iraq, weird I know. I tried saying this to a lot of my Philosphy Teachers but all I got back was bs from them, Wish I had you their to stick it to them like this man rock: Hell once i out argued one of them and then she pulled out the "Who went to university here thing on me". Don't be fooled not all of us liberals are bleeding Heart's.

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